Last edited by chopdog; 02-06-2013 at 11:52 AM.
well does it have spark? my old bike used to do that and i had to replace the ignition coil, does it start when you kick it?
try jumping the starter.... i had that problem and the starter was shot...good luck
our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
250r dust runner
04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild
yes it will kick start.
how do you jump the starter?
thanks for the quick feed back! This is an awesome forum![]()
Mine does that when its battery is low. It clicks and doesn't have enough power. If your neutral light on the dash board starts to flicker when your started Id say maybe the battery is dead. Try charging it. Im probably wrong but its worth a try![]()
15, rode my first when I was 10. I own 4... I guess they Just talk to me![]()
<<<<<<<<<< Three Wheels For Life >>>>>>>>>>
(NEW) 1985 Yamaha Tri-z 250 My real #1
1985 Honda 250sx my "new" all original garage baby
1985 Honda 200m My first ride
1985 Honda 200x autox
i put a smaller batt i had in the garage and fully charged it but i might not have the cold cranking amperage! The neutral light does dim when i hit the start button. would call it a flicker just dims until you let off the starter button. clicks when i press and clicks again when i release. thanks again
how do you jump the starter?
im not sure how to jump the starter, i think he means get some jumper cables and put it on the wires that go to the battery and see if that works, if it doesn't it could just be a bad starter
or just a bad battery
That rounded component appears to be a starter solenoid. If yes then it contains a large set of contacts for switching on high electrical current flow (amperes) to the starter motor when the electromagnetic solenoid is energized. If there were no solenoid then all of the amperes would need to flow through the engine-start pushbutton contacts enroute to the starter motor!
A voltmeter is used to locate bad connections. Place one of the voltmeter's leads on the battery's ground strap where it bolts onto the engine block/frame. The other voltmeter lead is connected to the engine block/frame (elsewhere). Depress the engine-start pushbutton and observe the voltmeter display for any voltage (electrical potential) developed.
If you see any electrical potential developed at the ground strap connection then it's indicative of electrical resistance at the connection. A high resistance electrical connection will restrict flow of amperes and create a voltage drop across the connection. Your voltmeter is sensing for any voltage drop when high electrical current flow passes through the connection. This is a more reliable method (especially under high current flow conditions) to detect electrical resistance through a connection than is possible through use of an ohmmeter.
Eliminate the resistance by disassembling the connection then clean it with a wire brush, baking soda/water solution then apply dielectric grease before re-assembly. Repeat this procedure at the battery negative terminal and the solenoid's negative terminal except the voltmeter's second lead will touch the threaded fastening stud. You can do this on the positive side of the battery also.
Another simple voltmeter test is to place its probes on the battery positive/negative terminals to measure/display battery voltage. While monitoring the voltmeter display, depress the engine-start pushbutton and observe the displayed voltage. Depending on battery health, the voltage will drop. If voltage drops < 9 volts then battery is either not fully charged or the battery storage capacity is degraded.
The last method is the last resort - Connect the battery directly to the electric starter motor; short-circuiting (bypassing) the engine-start pushbutton, starter solenoid, starter relay (if used) and all interconnecting wiring terminations. If the battery and starter motor are both good then the motor will energize and rotate. Be advised you'll be applying a lot of amperes (> 50 amps) to the starter motor so you will see electrical arcing when the circuit is closed (completed) to direct stored energy from the battery to power the starter motor.
Last edited by Badbmwbrad; 02-06-2013 at 04:04 PM.
jump the starter by shorting the two wires on the round thing together.
86 big red
85 250sx
85 atc70
non illigitamus carborundum
Id go get a brand new battery and charge it fully. Start there then troubleshoot starter and everything else. Good luck![]()
15, rode my first when I was 10. I own 4... I guess they Just talk to me![]()
<<<<<<<<<< Three Wheels For Life >>>>>>>>>>
(NEW) 1985 Yamaha Tri-z 250 My real #1
1985 Honda 250sx my "new" all original garage baby
1985 Honda 200m My first ride
1985 Honda 200x autox
What Badbmwbrad said (but much simpler)
The clicking is the starter solenoid engaging (the round thing next to the battery)
Try putting power directly to the starter from an outside power source. Car battery, jumper pack, etc. If nothing happens you have a bad starter. If it does turn over, you have a weak battery or a loose connection somewhere.
I don't think it's a bad solenoid but you can check it with a test light. Trace your + battery cable to the one side of the solenoid, the other large wire that is attached should go to the starter. Hook the ground of the test light to the - side of the battery and put the probe of the test light on the wire off the solenoid that goes to the starter. Hit the start button. The test light should light up while you are pushing the button.
thank you so much for your information! Will give it all a try and reply to the out come. What more can I say than thanks so much you all have been a great help!
just get a car battery, and put the postive on the starter. and just find a rough spot on the frame and put the negative on it, try a couple spots, its how i boost mine, and it works fine, i have the same problem with my dads, he changed the battery from original to some crappy energizer one, the original was in her for 20 years