Originally Posted by 3Razors
Hello 3razors
You just refuse to stop unnecessarily attacking me by making unprovoked, condescending, sarcastic remarks.
In case you haven’t noticed no one has come to support you recently. I don’t know why. There may be someone that will and I respect EVERYONE'S right to their OPINION but I do not respect or appreciate your or ANYONE'S unprovoked sarcastic, condescending remarks towards me as I previously mentioned. I also do not appreciate "falsehoods", ie. inacurate statements and opinions posited as facts in the manner you have done in some instances here.
My opinion is that you have an unhealthy obsession and unresolved anger issues over an event that you experienced which occurred 19 years ago and by your own description suggests to me had a profoundly negative effect on you that still lingers on today. This is evidenced by your continued post regarding this issue and the comments contained within in them.
If I had such issues I would seek psychological counseling.
The following is my comment in post #27 which was made prior to yours that I have copied above.
“My opinion is that you seem very angry about the magnets and I can sympathize with everyone’s frustration that have had problems with them but it just seems like you have targeted me and/or Kawi due to some sort of perceived injustice we have enacted against you and you want to take it out on me because I’m the easiest target. Doesn’t this seem like for you and/or others to target me and direct what I perceive is anger towards me an unreasonable and unfair thing to do?”
I think that most can see the problem with you or are simply bored with this as I am. You also REFUSE to PM me like I politely asked you to. Instead you want to continue this PUBLIC badgering and berating of me. How do you explain this? Like I said you and your opinions are no longer relevant to me and probably others also by now.
I asked you this in a previous post and will ask it again. What exactly do you want from me?
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“you are seriously undermining the issue with Tecate flywheels. Its a good thing that you supposedly stepped away”
How am I “undermining” the issue of problems with a 25 year old flywheel that is long since out of warranty?
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“The result was most Tecates were simply layed to rest rather than shelling out that kind of coin.”
Well 25 years later that is a good thing cause I guess you can pick up these junk boxes at a significantly lower price than a comparable Honda 250R if you want one!
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“ Good luck taking the issue up with Kawasaki, I have no doubt they would tell you to go pound sand on that one because the bike was out of warranty time frame.”
Your statement as made within the context provided suggests you did not try to take up the issue with Kawi at the time so you can only SPECULATE about things you didn’t try. I have personally seen them warranty parts first hand, that were CLEARLY out of warranty. You might have blown an opportunity by not trying. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The squeaky wheel gets the grease [sometimes].
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“Imagine how happy I was back in 1994 being 4 miles out stuck in a giant dune bowl at Glamis when my flywheel gave way?!”
You have been complaining about flywheels blowing up a few years after they were mfg. By my math the experience you personally had was 7 years after the last tecates were produced. You’re right I’d tell you to “pound sand” [as you say] too after 7 years but you know what so would your beloved Honda, and Suzuki, and Yamaha mfg’s and so would every other reasonable person I know. Your comment suggests that if you had mfg’d this part that you would be generous enough to replace every broken one for free after this amount of time whether under warranty or not.
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“Had to hike back to camp in uphill sand through the dunes back to get help...not fun at all!”
The following is my comment in post #27 which was made prior to yours copied above.
“My opinion is that you seem very angry about the magnets and I can sympathize with everyone’s frustration that have had problems with them but it just seems like you have targeted me and/or Kawi due to some sort of perceived injustice we have enacted against you and you want to take it out on me because I’m the easiest target. Doesn’t this seem like for you and/or others to target me and direct what I perceive is anger towards me an unreasonable and unfair thing to do?”
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“So now the owner gets to buy a $400 flywheel plus a $300 stator from Kawasaki”
“I Got home from the trip and bought a new Tecate stator from the original Ricky Stator when he owned the company, he stated that it was his #1 selling stator because of the flywheel issue.”
Your comments clearly contradict themselves. You say they had by stator from kawi at the same time you are saying you personally bought one from Ricky. Sorry I’m just confused now.
How much was the Ricky then?
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“Thank goodness, the Ricks flywheel they sell now is the internal metal ring to do away with the glued magnets.”
Your comment clearly suggests that Ricky did NOT sell a flywheel with screwed on magnets or that were secured by an internal ring when you bought one in 94.
What EXACTLY was he selling?
Original OEM Kawi unit?
His own replacement with GLUED on magnets?
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“If you think Kawasaki tested and designed their Tecate better then just keep telling yourself that.”
Another unprovoked sarcastic condescending remark by you plus your comment suggests to me that you are claiming that I said or even suggested that the Tecate’s were designed better than the Honda. I encourage you to prove it because it never happened, that would be an outright lie and a “stupid” thing for me to say in this particular instance.
My statements below from post #10 posted prior to your recent one above.
“None of these bikes were designed to last 30 years. The tecate was tested under far more severe conditions during development than any other comparable mfg model. Yes I do know this for a fact.”
“The bike was designed as a race bike with little regard to the casual trail rider ergo the extreme test conditions.”
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“Real world riders, professional mechanics and a few decades of use shows which 250 2 stroke trike has held together the longest with the least amount of issues, and its hands down the 250R.”
I’m sure Jimmie White, Donnie Luce, Chris White, Tim Helter, Shaun Finley, Steve Mendenhall, Denny Fernell and several others would love to hear that they are not real world riders in your view.
Below is the url to a pair of videos of what at least some might consider “real world” riders under “real world” riding conditions however it’s quite possible your riding ability [skill level] allows you to subject your particular ATV’s to more severe conditions than those shown in these videos. level subject your bike for you, warning it isn’t pretty.
Warning to all Honda lovers, these videos portray live footage that may be harmful to your psyche and unsuitable and disturbing for you to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9E9OaUllsY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwD2gvtmias
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“On a mx track with fresh new bikes I'd give the edge to Tecate but for the all around recreational rider 250R is king.”
I think I already eluded to that fact. Honda is a great recreational bike out of the box. Great for racing with mods. I have owned way more Hondas than most. I was sponsored by Norm Reeves Honda and Dave Miller from Miller Mano in 76 on a 125 CR.
MY statement below from post #10 posted prior to yours above.
‘The bike was designed as a race bike with little regard to the casual trail rider ergo the extreme test conditions.”
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“Tecate no engine counter-balancer”
Never saw a a counter balancer on national champ Jeff Wards bike, World champ Brad Lackey, Winningest Motocrosser of all time Ricky Carmichael…
2 strokes designed as high performance race bikes don’t have counterbalancers, no matter how many wheels they have. They add weight and require horsepower to spin.
Again my statement below from post #10 posted prior to yours above.
‘The bike was designed as a race bike with little regard to the casual trail rider ergo the extreme test conditions.”
Pair of videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9E9OaUllsY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwD2gvtmias
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“It can be summed why the Tecate falls short in the durability of the 250R in...#1 Tecate no engine counter-balancer #2 is the overall build was less robust compared to the 250R.”
Anyone can build heavy tank.
Thank you for educating me in this matter however I would like to see supporting empirical evidence that supports your statement that you posit as a factual one as opposed to one that is posited as an opinion.
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“When you combine those two issues problems arise in that having no counterbalancer sends harmonic waves through the entire bike, these waves not only loosen up fasteners holding things together”
That’s what things called wrenches are made for.
Thank you for the physics lesson.
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“also fatigue parts because of the extra shaking transmitted but through them.”
Thank you for educating me in this matter also however I would like to see supporting empirical evidence that supports this statement that you posit as a factual one as opposed to one that is posited as an opinion as well.
Vibration can cause premature fatigue on adjacent parts and subsequent partial damage to or total catastrophic failure of a particular part or parts however when those said are designed to withstand a particular level of vibration whether it be the dynamic type or harmonic type then those said parts typically last as long as their design calculations predict them to.
A more accurate way to make a “blanket” statement like yours without the support of empirical evidence might be to say, “may also potentially fatigue parts because of the extra shaking transmitted through them.
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“ Follow that with certain parts that weren't built as heavy duty then things go downhill fast. Honda did the exact opposite by having heavier duty built components such as the flywheel, shift shaft, pipe mounts, frame, ect. ALONG with a counter-balancers for a much longer reliability record.”
Nothings built to last forever.
My statement below from post #10 posted prior to your recent one above.
“None of these bikes were designed to last 30 years.”
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“If you think Kawasaki tested and designed their Tecate better then just keep telling yourself that.”
Another unprovoked sarcastic condescending remark by you plus your comment suggests to me that you are claiming that I said or even suggested that the Tecate’s were designed better than the Honda. I encourage you to prove it because it never happened, that would be an outright lie and a “stupid” thing for me to say in this particular instance.
My statements below from post #10 posted prior to your recent one above.
“None of these bikes were designed to last 30 years. The tecate was tested under far more severe conditions during development than any other comparable mfg model. Yes I do know this for a fact.”
“The bike was designed as a race bike with little regard to the casual trail rider ergo the extreme test conditions.”
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“And FWIW to other new members I don't hate the Tecate either, love the ones I have. Fantastic handling and the 86 cylinder is my fav 250 of all. Just remember you have to give them a bit more love (err locktite) ha in certain areas to keep it going. One member on here once said if trikes were women the 250R is one to marry and the Tecate you don't bring home to mom...Very true!!”
It looks to me that you are saying two totally different things here so I am confused again. You try to beat me up to one degree or another over the Tecate’s flywheel problems and the perceived reliability issues you seem to have with them in every single post you have made without exception then say you here that you “love them.” Can’t you make up your mind?
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Like I said in my previous post if you PM me with a respectful tone and reasonable questions I will reply in kind.
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