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Thread: 2002 warrior shock and shackle on 85 tri z

  1. #16
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    wow really....junk right there. R1, they are 400lbs, have 3.5 inches if that of travel not even close.

    Per workswebsite your tri-z shock is 13.50" eye to eye lenght. You you'd be best to use a Banshee, which is 13.63" eye to eye. You might be able to find a used works shock on ebay. The warrior was was way longer and shouldnt of even been used. 660R shocks are way to long to be used. A banshee shock has the rezzy bottle attached to the body of the shock so I am not sure if you have room for an OEM one but there are used works on there all day long with remote bottle for $250 which is a fair price and can be rebuilt, OEM yamahas cant I dont belive and they are all steal bodied up until the new quads.

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    I've considered a raptor shock, but still I can't find a write up for swapping a raptor shock to a 85 Z swingarm. I have read articles of them being installed on 86 Z's but am aware that there are some differences in swing arms and such.. wasnt willing to do a swingarm swap since my z has been restored and everything on it has nice powder coating and such done already. I knew the warrior shock was direct bolt up, once I dug into it I got an itch ( like most of you probably) to do a little more custom work.

    My next idea was taking the warrior shackle to a machinest, and having him hack an inch of the overall length out, and rewelding it together an inch longer then the factory z shackle. The warrior was roughly 2 inches longer then the z shackle. This should put my bike a bit lower then stock, and still allow enough clearance to clear from bottoming out on the bottom of my fuel tank like my previous problem.

    I'll keep you guys updated when I get shackle back tomorrow!

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    whats wrong with the way the bike is now, its been designed for a reason.

  4. #19
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    To tall, and designed as a narrow bike already, its hard to keep it controllable in the air. A friend of mine races the pro class on his 08 yfz 450r quad. Chasing him down on the rythem sections is tough, so I'm setting the bike up for my riding style. Plus it could be a potentially simple swap for a newbie do it your selfer like me in the future.

    And plus, the north Dakota oil fields can get extremely boring. Having a project to tinker on only helps the time go by

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    By the way, may I ask what a 2013 HRE 200x is? I've got an 86 x that could use some attention. Also been looking at TPC Trikes... very very cool

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    no trike is gonna handle like a quad on the track, id you wanna MX id say you need to totaly redesign the bike and if a works shock is not in the budget for you a properly set up bike is def not.

    search HRE and see what ya find. My 200x....too much stuff on it He has built me.

    search HRE 200X

  7. #22
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    I understand this. I've got an 03 raptor I can ride if I want to. Been riding 3 wheelers my whole life though, so id prefer to build one that's comfortable to me, because at the end of the day, I'm the one riding it.

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    I fitted an 03' warrior shock on my 86' tri-z with the standard tri-z linkage and dogbone and it didn't sit as low as yours in your pic and it rode fine!
    If it ain't sideways......what's the point!!



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    Put the Warrior Shock on, and leave all the stock Tri-Z linkage. At your weight, you can reduce the preload nuts to minimum for the lowest ride height and the Warrior Shock will work great for you. If you are running it on a track, and need to drop lower yet, get some 18" track instead of those woods and trail tires. Then you'll probably need to slide the fork tubes up an inch to keep the same rake.

    A Banshee shock (except 87 I think) has a piggyback reservoir which tends to puncture the gas tank when you compress it. An aftermarket "Banshee" shock with a remote reservoir will suit you fine, but at your weight, almost any you find will need resprung for your light weight, and it would probably be less expensive to order a new on for your weight. Banshee and Warrior shocks are the same length. Both Banshee and Warrior OEM shocks last only few years, so if you use one, keep watching for a Works. I paid $175 for one of mine, and $200 for the other I think on ebay.

    A Raptor shock works great for going uphill. You have to compress it just to get it installed, and then you ride around with your butt up in the air.

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    Thanks Tim. Those tires are pretty Louisiana mud pit approved huh? Lol. I appreciate the info. I was going to experiment with the front next. I've ridden a lot of contraptions, and definitely prefer the low steady feel. My stock Z shackle is all wore out unfortunately, bushings have lots of play. Feels like an inch of slop when you pick up on the back of bike after shock reaches full depress... partially the reason I'm modifying the warrior shackle (since I have one laying around)

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    just order the oem bushings,,,, thats part of the reason they stop making them... im installing new 86 bushings in my trail bike! time is money....

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    I'll order them just to keep them alive raffa! Make a necklace or something

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    Let me know if photos uploaded correctly... only have a smartphone at moment.

    Pics show warrior shackle factory length, then shows shortened warrior shackle compared to factory z shackle.

    Another reason I wanted to go with the modified warrior shackle was because it has a grease zerks on both sides.. versus the z shackle only having one. Also the warrior has bigger bushings.. which probably doesn't matter much, but parts will be easier to order in future I figured.. if bushings get wore

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    Looks like it will work. One quick note on welding the cast dog bone. Make sure you grind a taper on both pieces, all the way around, where you weld them back together. Then fill in the missing material with your welder. A butt weld on cast is quite fragile. Just a heads up.
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    Thanks for the tip, the dogbone was welded 100%. The bikes stance is amazing. Exactly what I wanted. No more swingarm bottoming out on bottom of fuel tank either.

    I do notice a little bit of slop in The rear end when shock is at full depress still.. not as bad. But enough to make me have a nightmare or 2... I keep comparing the z to my old neglected 200x that's bone stock... the old x is still solid as a rock.. I understand the z suspension is a little more advanced.. which makes me feel like a little play is almost notorious for old wishbone suspension style bikes. Also noticed when bike ride is sitting on its own weight, the bushings in shock allow it to rotate a bit left to right. not a whole lot. Just weird to me.

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