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Thread: im trying to troubbleshoot my 1985 honda big red 250es....UPDATE!

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    'idk' = I don't know, Barnett
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnett468 View Post
    In case you were wondering why “we had the manual out across the bench” is because since my determination of the 2 most likely causes of your problem in my original reply to your post in the other forum which led to you checking my suggestion and subsequently FINDING the problem and my suggestion in that same post that you would be better served to post your question here, out of concern I was simply following up on the original questions I asked to insure you did not have any additional problems.

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    Funny, I didn't see 'Barnett' in any of the posts of the other thread where 'tri again' and I were talking to Dylan...yet you claim that it was your determination that led to his solution?

    Am I missing something or did you skip your meds today?
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    1985 Honda 250SX..my main mudder
    1985 Honda 250ES..Back in Black Trike
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    1990 Honda TRX300FW
    1995 Seadoo GTX
    1998 Polaris Indy Lite 340(Nearly new looking)
    1998 Polaris Touring 500
    1998 Club Car (electric)

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    Hello dylanisaacs


    Let us know haw it carburetes too if you want ie any flat spots or burbles/stutters?





    Quote Originally Posted by dougspcs View Post
    'idk' = I don't know, Barnett
    LOL.


    Quote Originally Posted by dougspcs View Post
    Funny, I didn't see 'Barnett' in any of the posts of the other thread where 'tri again' and I were talking to Dylan...yet you claim that it was your determination that led to his solution? ? Am I missing something

    That’s funny I didn’t see Dougspcs OR tri again either in his original post regarding this topic which was first posted on 5-12 at 11:44 am [as seen by his original url below]. I replied to it on 5-13 at 10:17 am. His next new thread he started because I suggested it to him [in his original post] as you can CLEARLY see in my reply pasted below] was in the “NEW MEMBER DISCUSSION” forum and was started on 5-13 at 1:20. Your first reply to that string was on at 1:35 followed by tri again’s post on 5-13 at 1:38.

    I hear they have FREE math calculators available online at math.com if you need one to do the simple arithmetic required here to prove that my statement regarding this question is 100% ACCURATE.

    Uh Oh, Hello Doug, Doug? I think someone better bring the oxygen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougspcs View Post
    did you skip your meds today?

    Oh my goodness no, my nursemaid makes sure I don’t.

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    DYLANISAACS ORIGINAL POST

    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/group.p...893&do=discuss

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    dylanisaacs - 05-12-2013, 11:44 PM

    i am trying to troubleshoot my proble with my 1985 honda big red 250es i drive it for a while then it bogs out randomly and shuts off (like someone flooded it) my friend said it might be the air screw but i think its worse than that, please help me......and if i wait 1-2mins it will fire back up but it might bog while idle and shut off it only recently started doing this any ideas on how to fix this will be much apprciated

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    barnett468 - 05-13-2013, 10:17 AM

    Hello


    Please answer ALL the following questions in line order fashion then if you want you can cut and paste them in the NEW MEMBER DISCUSSION forum. You will get many quick replies there otherwise I will try to help you..

    How long has it had this problem?

    How old is the gas?

    How many hours on the spark plug?

    Remove plug, what color is the porcelain tip, lit tan dark tan, dry black or moist black and gooey?

    Drain float bowl gas into a narrow clear glass via the drain screw bon the very bottom of carb, turn it counter clockwise. What color is the gas? Is there sediment in bottom of glass? Is there a small clear water bubble in bottom of glass?

    Sounds like either sediment in tank blocking the fuel filter or a bad CDI unit.

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    i pulled my plug today and it was white how do i fix it?

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    barnett468 is offline FACT ! I have no edit button Arm chair racerThe day begins with 3WW
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    Hello dylanissacs


    Glad your bike is still running. When we left off, your dad put oil in your tank to stop the rust and added fuel stabilizer. Your bike ran but you didn’t say if there was any carburetion issues after I asked and your plug was dry and black. Now all of a sudden your plug is white.

    Based on your bikes history I suggest you do not ride it until you answer the following questions so we can try and see what’s going on. If it is super lean it might get damaged from running too hot. If your plug has only been in for 30 minutes or less it might not have been in long enough to get color on it, but it still seems lean. I have never seen a bike have a plug that had a plug that had less than 20 hours on it and was totally black go to having a new plug that was totally white for no reason at all. If your jets got plugged that much between then and now your bike would not run so you must have done something in between then and it would help me to know what it was first.

    Please answer all the following questions so I or another can help you better.


    Quote Originally Posted by dylanisaacs View Post
    my pop has now put a small drop of oil and stabilizer in my gas tank to clean the jets out


    Quote Originally Posted by barnett468 View Post
    Hello dylanisaacs How many hours does the plug have on it approximately?
    Quote Originally Posted by dylanisaacs View Post
    plug has less than 20 hours i think, i ride at a mix of high and low but mostly low rpms, it needs 1/4 choke to start, it starts with the first kick, its 2. pale yellow with no rust or sedlemient

    Quote Originally Posted by barnett468 View Post
    Remove the plug and by picking a number please tell us EXACTLY what color the pointed white porcelain part is.

    1. White

    2, Lite tan

    3. Dark tan?

    4, Dry black?

    5. Moist gooey black?
    Quote Originally Posted by dylanisaacs View Post
    its 4. Dry black


    Quote Originally Posted by barnett468 View Post
    Hello dylanisaacs Let us know how it carburetes too if you want ie any flat spots or burbles/stutters?


    Quote Originally Posted by dylanisaacs View Post
    pulled my plug today and it was white how do i fix it?


    Did you change or do ANYTHING besides your spark plug since the last time you posted?

    Did you still have oil in your gas while you were running with the new plug?

    What number was the old plug?

    What number is the new plug?

    Did it burble/stutter upon acceleration with the black plug?

    Did it have any flat spots [no burble or stutter upon acceleration with the black plug?

    Does it run the same now as it did with the black plug?

    Does it idle the same as it did before and does it idle ok?

    Does it still require the same amount of choke to start now as iot did when the plug was black?

    Do you notice your motor running hotter than it did before?

    Does your exhaust pipe glow red after a while?

    How long has your new plug been in there?

    Do you know what your main and pilot jet sizes are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylanisaacs View Post
    i pulled my plug today and it was white how do i fix it?
    Correct plug? NGK DR8ESL..

    A hotter plug will also appear this way..might damage the engine if ridden for a prolonged period too!
    Current toys..
    1986 Honda 350X..trail bomb!
    1985 Honda 250SX..my main mudder
    1985 Honda 250ES..Back in Black Trike
    Current non-trike toys:
    1990 Honda TRX300FW
    1995 Seadoo GTX
    1998 Polaris Indy Lite 340(Nearly new looking)
    1998 Polaris Touring 500
    1998 Club Car (electric)

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