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    mike84bigred is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    Carb purchased, now wait.....
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    mike84bigred is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    Got the new carb on. Ran pretty good but still smoking. Going to pull the head off and determine weather I need rings, seals, or both. Hopefully it dosent need bored.
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    I've never had a problem with the Chinese carbs either... have one in my 110 which has lasted years and just ordered one for my 200x for 18 bucks!!! How can you go wrong for a price like that? I still have 2 old original carbs for my 200x for a rebuild if needed, but even if these carbs only lasted 2 years, who cares? Buy a new one when it conks out!!! How much can go wrong in a carb anyways, it's not a nuclear reactor after all!
    My Trikes...

    -1985 Big Red


    -1986 250r


    -1984 200x


    -1980 110


    -1980 ATC 185

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    For some reason, it leaked when I first put it on. After that, it was fine but will only run with the choke half on. Anyone know where the fuel/air mixture screw supposed to be? Also the the clip on the needle?
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    Air/fuel adjustment screw is on the front bottom side of the carb, at the front of the bowl. Needle clip should be in the middle notch but it really only effects the mid-range transition.
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    You can't expect to put a brand new carb on and have it tuned properly for your machine. You may get lucky, but don't count on it. I would say even more so with a cheap Chinese carb.

    You tune your needle first. Follow this procedure to tune your carb:

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    Thats not I asked. I know where the screw is, I'm asking where is it supposed to be positioned? like when I rebuilt my Polaris carb., a good place to start was a quarter turn out from all the way in. I could figure it out myself, but I acciedently sold my Clymer manual when I sold a bunch of parts. In no way did expected it to be set correctly, whether OEM or aftermarket.

    Anyway, I got bigger issues. I have been beating on the bottom motor mount for the last 2 hours with no success on getting it out!
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    If you need the manual you can download it from my server, click the link below in my signature and there you go!

    Usually back it out from lightly seating about 2 - 2 1/4 turns, get it running and warmed up, turn it back in until the motor sputters and dies, then back it out one turn.
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    1984 Honda ATC200ES "Big Red"
    1982 ATC200E "Hondie"
    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

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    Will do that, thanks. As I I said, I got bigger problems now. Tring to.get the motor out. Got all motor mounts except one, the rear bottom. I have never seen anything like it in my like. Nut came, and head on the other side decided to break off rather than turn. I was beating on it for 2 hours until I smashed my hand with the ! Thing is, I got it to move finally, but the bolt is now mushroomer and wont go through the bracket. Ugh!
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    Success, sorta. Got the motor out. Had to cut the bottom rear bracket off of the frame. I was able to bang the broken bolt out eventually on my bench. Will have to weld the broken bracket pieces back on, but oh well. Got motor apart. Have to take some measurements to see if bore and piston are within the service limits. Big thanks to kbOnly for the link to the service manual!
    84'200s (Dad bought new in 84, long gone)
    84'YTM200 (sold 02)
    85'KLT160 (sold 05)
    84' Big Red (Cobra exhaust,good shape) sold in 08
    84' Big Red (Parts Bike, runs good though)sold in 08
    85' 250SX (New plastic, Clark Plastic Gas Tank, Web Cam Camshaft, Cobra Exhaust, Moose Jet Kit, etc..) sold in 2010 and highly regret!!!
    04 Polaris Sportsman (Swapped 400 motor with a 500, Polaris wheels w/Kendra Bearclaws, Moose Fender Flares, Brushguard, Warn Winch)
    84 200s (Needs work!)

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    Good job getting it out! Now for a real adventure, try and get a swingarm bolt out of a rusted 250r!!! Ask me how I know...
    My Trikes...

    -1985 Big Red


    -1986 250r


    -1984 200x


    -1980 110


    -1980 ATC 185

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