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    stop welding hubs to axle

    recently traded a nice 82 110 for a 85 350x that was in boxes.i had a rolling chassis and the motor,brakes and a few other things where in boxes.so i get this thing mostly back together besides rear brakes and take it for a spin.when i got back i noticed the rear bearings where a little loose so i proceed to yank the rear axle when i see that someone as welded the hubs onto the axle on both sides.after burning up two grind wheels i said he heck with it and cut them off.i couldnt find a axle on ebay for a reasonable price so i bought a 250x rolling chassis sight unseen and had it delivered to my house while i was at work.couldnt wait to get home and yank that axle and to my suprise both hubs are welded on both sides.after striping all the rhino lliner off the plastic and forks on the the 350 that the PO thought was cool i thought i was in the clear until i ran across this welded mess of axles i had to work with.finally got me a good used axleand got it back together.please someone respond and tell me im not the only one whos ran across this stupidity.
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    Nice 350x I think you got a good deal for it, even after buying a axle. If you go on Craigslist their are so many people that weld their hubs to the axle, it kind of ticks me off because of them are pretty nice but they screwed em up anyway I really like your 350x I always wanted one but their are priced ridiculously aroun here. Post up some more pics of this bad boy
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    yeah i guess some people think axle bearings are good forever.it just sucked because i can assure you of one thing.those axles are very very very strong.try tocut one in half even at the smallest point and youll see.i hate destroying good parts knowing that one day i could use it.i have more pics in my album to check out.my auto x is my cleanest bike that i have rightnow.i fix them up when i have the extra cash but i dont have to have the prettiest bike in town. as long as mine run and brakes work im good.

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    lets go down the jack-ass list...hubs welded to axles....shifters welded to shift shafts...handlebars welded on....grab bars welded on..2 piece wheels welded together....Im sure theres more!!!

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    Yes I have been a victim of that stupide act too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry T Moore View Post
    lets go down the jack-ass list...hubs welded to axles....shifters welded to shift shafts...handlebars welded on....grab bars welded on..2 piece wheels welded together....Im sure theres more!!!
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    crap...forgot that one

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    I swear, there should be an application process for some people before they can own or even USE a welder!

    I haven't come across the welded hubs yet myself, but I see quite a few machines for sale that say the hubs are welded. Only thing I can figure is it's a short-sighted fix for sloppy hubs and/or stripped axle nuts or threads on the axle ends. Either way, I couldn't bring myself to do it unless in the most dire situation you could imagine... Like stranded somewhere and life literally depending on it!
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    I recently got one where the rims were welded to the hubs. And the shifter was welded to the shaft to prevent it from slipping.

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    I bought a 200m years ago with the rear rack welded on...had forgot then saw a pic...

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    yeah who ever welded these defenitly went by the code of bigger is always better.its like they where trying to see just how thick they could weld before their 5lb roll of wire ran out.i tried my best at saving the axle and hubs but there was just too much weld on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry T Moore View Post
    lets go down the jack-ass list...hubs welded to axles....shifters welded to shift shafts...handlebars welded on....grab bars welded on..2 piece wheels welded together....Im sure theres more!!!
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    friend of mine called last night and we discussed this...he had a bike that the last guy had welded the oil drain plug on cause it leaked and laid the bike down to drain the oil out on the ground...

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    There are some machines where the axles are hard to find and or cost as much as the machine is worth when you do find a good one. In these cases I don't feel it's wrong to weld the hubs. I have a Suzuki LT 125 that the hub / axle is stripped almost smooth. I'm trying different things to fix it without welding, how ever I am pretty sure they will have to be welded if the machine is to be saved at all. If I weld the hub it will be just enough to hold it good and that's it.

    If you wish to call be a idiot for welding when I have no other practical choise then so be it. Yea, I found a different axle for this machine, but they want $175 + shipping. Parting the machine out is out of the question as parting it might bring $150-$175 and take 2 years to sell. Plus I already have too much invested.

    Now I have seen welded flywheels, front sprockets, shifters, brake drums, shocks, and 1 time I had one come in that had a strap welded to the gas tank to secure it to the machine. These things I do not like.
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