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Thread: Spark plug threads messed up -HELP ME!

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    Spark plug threads messed up -HELP ME!

    I screwed up my spark plug threads....which is a trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro. It's not all the way, only like the last 1/8 of the threads, in the head. What's the best way to go about fixing them? Do they make a special tool for fixing plug threads? It's so bad that when I start to thread the plug it, it starts straight, then changes angles!! Thanks in advance...
    Trikes:
    1973 Honda ATC70-orange!
    (2)1985 ATC70
    1985 Big Red 250
    1985 250R

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    Crap

    You will need to remove the head to prevent any metal shavings from falling in cylinder. You can try using an tap to retap the threads, if they are beyond this you will have to drill tap and install a helicoil.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

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    That pisses me off. I haven't seen any manuals for this either...it's actually a dirtbike of mine, the good ol TL250, but I posted here because I figured it would get more attention. Welp I think I can figure out how to take it off without too many problems. Better go get to work!
    Trikes:
    1973 Honda ATC70-orange!
    (2)1985 ATC70
    1985 Big Red 250
    1985 250R

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    Unfotunately...

    .. the only safe way to do it is to remove the head. Those metal fillings from using a tap are severely detrimental to the cylinder happiness.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

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    Welp I did it, and went over to a buddies place who has a tap&die set....ran a tap through it, no good. Somehow, the threads got really fawked up and decided to make a different angle of hole. Now I have to HeloCoil the mofudda. Great.
    Trikes:
    1973 Honda ATC70-orange!
    (2)1985 ATC70
    1985 Big Red 250
    1985 250R

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    There's a company that makes taps that will catch metal shavings, made specifically for the aluminium heads. If you want the company's name and phone # let me know, I'll dig it up.
    1986 ATC 250R(for sale), 1963 AceCraft boat w/40HP Evinrude, 1981 Arctic Cat El Tigre' 440 L/C, 1992 GMC Safari Van.

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    I dunno about that hemi, When I bought my 185 s plus problems one of which was a stripped spark cork and had to redo it it sure seemed simple and I said to myself: How much filings can this ting make? Its only a mm or so extra. I swept up about 2 tablespoons full of aluminum. Good thing I didn't leave the head on and use the lazy man's grease method recommended by a local mechanic.

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    These are taps with a magnet or some method to catch the threads so they dont fall into the engine. It's an automotive application but I'm sure it'll work just fine on these bikes. It was on the back page of Car Craft a month or two ago. They're like $20.00 for a tap but it's worth to keep from having to tear a head off. If goku want's the company name and phone # I'll look it up for him, Car Craft may even have something on their web site about it.
    1986 ATC 250R(for sale), 1963 AceCraft boat w/40HP Evinrude, 1981 Arctic Cat El Tigre' 440 L/C, 1992 GMC Safari Van.

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    try this place: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m3102/11_119/67320361/p1/article.jhtml--Motor age march 2001

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    magnetic tap

    If you buy a magnetic tap to catch the shavings, it wont work on aluminum.
    83 YT 175
    85 ALT 125

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    Re: magnetic tap

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Tenn
    If you buy a magnetic tap to catch the shavings, it wont work on aluminum.
    LOL! I was watching to see how long it would take someone to catch that! Sorry, I dont have a prize!

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    The january 2004 Car Craft issue, very last page is the product.

    www.starrproducts.com
    1986 ATC 250R(for sale), 1963 AceCraft boat w/40HP Evinrude, 1981 Arctic Cat El Tigre' 440 L/C, 1992 GMC Safari Van.

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    i was going to say if you were talkign about your tri z head i would have sold you one cheap in great shape that i have kicking around
    looking for a TRI-Z 250 to restore at the moment

    LONG LIVE THE 2 STROKES !!!

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    That looks like a great little gadget. It works simply by keeping the hole plugged below where you are cutting, and pulling the shavings out, as you are threading from the inside out.

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    seemed like a good product to me . You guys understand now? The best way to understand it is to watch the video.
    1986 ATC 250R(for sale), 1963 AceCraft boat w/40HP Evinrude, 1981 Arctic Cat El Tigre' 440 L/C, 1992 GMC Safari Van.

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