1985 250es kick start won't engage

[hheywire]

I'm about to buy a 1985 250es and the guy says the only thing wrong with it is the kick start doesn't engage when you kick it. What are the common problems to
cause this and what are the ways to fix.

[tri again]

hi

try the search key.

lots of posts.

If I knew I would tell you for sure.

you may hear the words 'one way bearing' but wait till you get
the right info from someone who knows.
I'd say parts ARE avail and the job is do-able.
MAYbe some sort of funny socket and MAYbe a reverse thread....or not.

Sorry I don't have better info.

[atc500x]

Your problem is the one-way bearing or sprag bearing,into the centrifugal clutch
If you change it yourself,don't forget the nut to remove the centrifugal clutch is left hand thread,clockwise to loose.

part #25

http://www.ronniesmailorder.com/fich...85&fveh=131327

[hheywire]

I thought there was something that engages and disengages right up where the kick start shaft goes in. I just don't know the name of the specific parts. I've rebuilt a fat cat
motor but not anything like this.

[tri again]

can you e start or push start it to see if it has
all the gears or timing chain slap?
check the gear oil in the rear axle too.

[hheywire]

Ill find all that stuff out when i go to purchase it.

[tri again]

yupp.
Nice to know if it has all the gears
and no timing chain slap or loud valve clatter.

and the rear axle only hold like 3 point 3 oz
and it shoulkd be clear and NOT chocolate milkshake from water.
Even if clear, it like to be changed.

I put neodymium magnets on the drain plugs to attract
metallic debris.

Good luck, have fun and you're gonna be hooked and
want a few more....but that's perfectly normal, and why most of us are here
so you'll have plenty of sympathy.

Can you click on:
service manual
?

[hheywire]

Oh believe me man I am hooked on atc's and anything Honda. I have a 1986 Honda fat cat, a 1986 second gen 125m little red, and a 1981 200s. The none Honda stuff I have are a 2004 Kawasaki bayou 250, and a 2001 yamaha yz 80 dirt bike that I converted into a trike, now it's a yamaha 80 tri motor. lol, I'm still adding to my collection. I'm on craigslist
everyday looking and hunting for trikes n bikes. I probly buy at least 2 or 3 machines a year. Often what I find needs work but I'm good at rebuilding and restoring anything.

[barnett468]

Hello

I'm about to buy a 1985 250es and the guy says the only thing wrong with it is the kick start doesn't engage when you kick it. What are the common problems to cause this and what are the ways to fix.

Your problem is the one-way bearing or sprag bearing,into the centrifugal clutch If you change it yourself,don't forget the nut to remove the centrifugal clutch is left hand thread,clockwise to loose.

Another possibility is one or more of the following items being bad or missing on the kickstarter shaft:

2, 3, 6,

http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-atc250es-...0.html#results

[Howdy]

I'm about to buy a 1985 250es and the guy says the only thing wrong with it is the kick start doesn't engage when you kick it. What are the common problems to
cause this and what are the ways to fix.

If you go look at it try kicking it over with the kick starter. If you feel some resistance at first then the kick starter goes down the rest of the way with little to no resistance then I am 99% sure Tri again is 100% correct on the one-way clutch. You might also hear a spinning sound after kicking it hard.

Another check is start the machine and then shut it off. If you hear a whirling sound followed by a clunk coming from the right side ( clutch ) cover then I am 100% sure the one-way clutch is the problem.

The one-way clutch fix is easy ( not that cheap though ). Parts in hand it takes less than 2 hrs to fix ( under a hour after you done it a few times. LOL ).
I have fixed / replaced 20-30 of these ( 250sx / 250es ) with bad one-way clutches. Maybe I am lucky as I have never had any with missing parts causing the problem.
Howdy

[SUPERTEX]

Hello, I also have a 85 250es that iv had for about 5 years when i bought it, the kick start was sloppy then, but iv always just used the electric start unless the battery was dead, but iv been wondering on this myself since i first got it.

When i go to kick it if i kick it from the very top i get about a quarter kick of solid clutch then it just bottoms out and makes a clicking noise for a few seconds but i can get the machine started over this way just takes a few try's and has to be warmed up, tho i haven't tryed much hoping not to mess up what is already going out, would just like to know how to fix this so i have a good back up for starting my Big Red! Thanks for any and all help on this

[Howdy]

Hello, I also have a 85 250es that iv had for about 5 years when i bought it, the kick start was sloppy then, but iv always just used the electric start unless the battery was dead, but iv been wondering on this myself since i first got it.

When i go to kick it if i kick it from the very top i get about a quarter kick of solid clutch then it just bottoms out and makes a clicking noise for a few seconds but i can get the machine started over this way just takes a few try's and has to be warmed up, tho i haven't tryed much hoping not to mess up what is already going out, would just like to know how to fix this so i have a good back up for starting my Big Red! Thanks for any and all help on this

I am 100% sure your one-way clutch is bad. Just have to remove the right side ( Clutch ) cover, remove the centrifical clutch replace the one-way clutch and re-install all the parts and your good to go.
Howdy

[SUPERTEX]

Thank you Howdy, now the question is what the part number is or called in the honda books and where to get it

[barnett468]

Hello

Thank you Howdy, now the question is what the part number is or called in the honda books and where to get it

atc500x posted that info in post 3. The cost at his site is $117.00. They are available at the sites I listed below also.
Hello



One way clutch bearing


One way clutch bearing p/n 91101-HA0-003 japanese made replacement

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ONE-WAY-CLUTC...item20d2f99a84


Item 25 oem honda $74

http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-atc250es-...0.html#results

[Howdy]

Thank you Howdy, now the question is what the part number is or called in the honda books and where to get it

The proper Part number is: 91101-HA0-004 sugested list price of $117.40

$95.80 here: http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...FZBcMgodjA4A-w

$90.40 here: http://www.hondapartshouse.com/oempa...0a21158/clutch

$83.40 Here http://www.westernhonda.com/fiche_se...85&fveh=131327

Shipping cost might be high for some. I would order a side cover gasket as well. Part Number: 11394-HA0-306

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Barnett, Your part number is wrong. You links don't work either. Did you try the links out before you copied and pasted. They are both from other countries as well.