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  1. #16
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    Jun 2010
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    It's starting to come together.....or so I thought. Lost spark today; I'll get to that tomorrow; and found out the left steering stop is worn out allowing the tank to get hit by the fork. Off comes the forks again for some welding. That rear fender is such a pain in the azz. I'm sick of sanding. Don't expect a fancy job on that; long live "fugly".

    P.S. Loaded up for a car show tomorrow so I can sit and do nothing for 5 hours. Matt (Mattdragontamer) let me borrow his awesome new trailer! Way better than the old red neck toy hauler I have,lol.
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    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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  2. #17
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    Dec 2012
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    Wow, that's coming together real nice. The tank looks sharp! How are you going to fasten the seat to the rear fender? Just let it sit on there? Also, did you put in a new chain tensioner/chain/rear sprocket? If you did, where did you get them from? Just wondering cause it looks like I'm going to have to change the ones on mine.
    1985 Honda ATC 250ES
    1985 Honda ATC 250SX
    1984 Honda ATC 200M
    1983 Honda ATC 200
    1984 Honda ATC 110

  3. #18
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    Oct 2012
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    Schaumburg
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    For the rear fenders; it looks like one picture you have a sheet metal patch riveted to the plastic (fiberglass) and then the next picture shows it primered gray and very smooth. What steps did you take between the sheet metal patch and the primer? Is there a ton of body filler on the fenders? Is it still rough and the picture just doesn't show the patchwork well? Just curious. Project looks great either way but just wondering if the gas tank was made to look clean if the fenders would be that clean also. Seems like you are doing you best to clean up the look of the trike so I think the rear fenders would not be an exception.
    RIZZ1135

    1984 ATC250R
    1985 ATC250R

  4. #19
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    Aug 2008
    Location
    MN
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    The fiberglass fenders are a PITA i know that for a fact!! I spent days sanding the set of 74 fenders i fixed. And in the end i traded them to another guy for a complete set of 80's plastic rear fenders with seat and mud flaps. He wanted the fiberglass, i wanted them out of here after staring at them for so long... LOL

    Looking really good!!! I wouldn't call it fugly now.. LOL
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    1984 Honda ATC200ES "Big Red"
    1982 ATC200E "Hondie"
    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

  5. #20
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    Jun 2010
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    Big G - I cut a piece of heavy puck board (plastic) that the seat cover will wrap around and will be fastened from the bottom. I'll get pics up once I get to that part. The chain, tensioner and sprockets are good!

    rizz1135, kbOnly - after I riveted in the aluminum patch, I laid down some fibreglass resin and glass sheet under the fender covering the patch. On the top I roughed up the aluminum and basically covered the patch and surrounding area with a couple of coats of resin only. I sanded that down as best I could. The bondo is making it all look nice ;-0. I'm hoping the fenders will look as good as the tank but as kb said himself, fibreglass fenders are a PITA and I'm getting sick of sanding. We'll see.

    Right now the mysterious no spark issue is baffling me a little. I've checked and adjusted the points, tried a known working plug, checked the static timing, disconnected the kill switch, trimmed the sparkplug wire back and screwed it back in. There was some nasty wiring under some silicone coming from the magneto so I put in a spare one I had. I'm going to bolt on a working coil/condenser tonight to see if that's it before I try wrangling the old coil and wiring harness out.
    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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  6. #21
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    Mar 2007
    Location
    Texas
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    any updates?
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    Nearly every kind of Honda ATC (plus some custom ones
    several Yami Quads (mostly custom built for MX racing)

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    "Freedom is not free...but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share."

  7. #22
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    Jun 2010
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    Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarmayer View Post
    any updates?
    Yes. I dragged a US90 motor down from the loft that I can run outside of a frame on a test bench. The coil/condenser is attached right to the motor. I pulled over the US90 motor and got a nice blue spark. My plan was to interchange parts onto fugly until I got spark. Mattdragontamer was helping me and he suggested changing the sparkplug first. I stated I already tried changing plugs with no luck. Well what the heck, I put the US90 sparkplug on and guess what....IT WAS THE EFFING PLUG ALL ALONG!! Hot, fat, blue spark! The good of all this is that I found the crappy wires coming from the magneto and switched it out; and got to clean all the contacts to pristine condition. I removed the forks last night and welded up the stops. I should be able to get back to square one again tonight with the forks back on. With any luck I'll be able to finish the rear fender and seat this weekend. Barring any more issues the young lad should have this NLT Labour Day weekend.
    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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  8. #23
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    Dec 2012
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    Good to see it was an easy fix! Looking forward to seeing the finished product! Also thanks for the idea for fastening the seat to the rear fenders
    1985 Honda ATC 250ES
    1985 Honda ATC 250SX
    1984 Honda ATC 200M
    1983 Honda ATC 200
    1984 Honda ATC 110

  9. #24
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    Jun 2010
    Location
    Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
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    Well it's been a while since I updated. Obviously I failed in getting this to the young lad before the end of summer. I have to confess this has been the most frustrating fixer upper I've ran into. I wanted to burn it at times! The ghost electrical problem reared it's ugly head again. It wasn't the plug after all; it was an intermittent short in the points. Then the carb started overflowing no matter what level I ran the float at. Switched out the needle and seat and that seems to have worked. The bodywork on the rear fender took WAY longer than I wanted it to but I'm satisfied with the end result for a rider. I even did some homemade pin striping and stenciling to break up the paint a little. The seat....well it works but compliments "fugly", lol. I couldn't save the old shifter no matter how much I micro filed the grooves. It would work for a bit a trip out again. I even felt like welding it on. In the end I borrowed a shifter from one of my US90's until I find a cheap replacement. If anyone has one for cheap let me know please! I have to thank Matt (Mattdragontamer) for donating some elbow grease. I now owe Matt dinner since we had a bet. I went over the $350.00 budget, total cost is $400.00ish, not including 60+ hours of labour, lol.
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    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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  10. #25
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    Jun 2010
    Location
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    I'm finally ready to deliver this to the young man. I went through a bad stint trying to dial in the carb. One day it would work fine, the next , blah. I ended up donating an upper portion of an older carb which has seemed to do the trick. Probably too much play in the slide barrel. It seems a bit hard to shift so I cahnged the oil again and followed the clutch adjustment procedure. One thing I can't figure out is the manual said to turn in the screw one full turn clockwise as the first step. This will only go in half a turn; does that mean the clutch is wore out? It still shifts but you have to be quick when upshifting. It's acting like the clutch plates aren't releasing when you let off the throttle between shifts?
    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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  11. #26
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    Location
    Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
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    Been awhile since I've updated. I got kind of forced into delivering it before I was happy with it. Seems that the boys Granfather told him about it which drove everyone nuts to get it finished. Wouldn't you know it the tranny piled up on day 1, arghhh! A bit embarrassing for me as you can well imagine. I had to concede that the cost of putting another motor in it would render this build over the top in terms of cost. I'm still on the lookout for a low dollar machine; probably lean toward a 185/200s now since the boy sprouted abit over the winter. Over the winter I threw in another 73 US90 motor in it to have a run about. Turns out it also had tranny issues and sub-trans issues. It's been parked since March.
    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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  12. #27
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    Jun 2010
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    Fugly Get's a New Heart!

    Fast forward to May 2014, I picked up a $25 1983 110 frame with CDI motor and handlebars from the dump. Besides the fact that the forks were bent bad, the frame welded at the head, the axles cut off, it turned over fine and was only missing the coil to be a runner. The shifter was bent outwards from hitting something also. The motor had good spark but 0 compression; off comes the top end. I found a bent intake valve along the seat but the internals spec'd out OK. A quick hone, Ebay supplied me with a gasket set, valve and sprocket. All seals were replaced from Honda, Zoomerman sent me a coil, and Kickstand1 sent me a carb, (the original was seized up), thanks guys! Wouldn't you know it it runs and shifts on the bench, a bit of a smoker but for under $200 all in, who cares! Still don't know what it's really like under load? My daughter and myself are transplanting it into Fugly. Got it in last night but are dealing with a leaking petcock and all the rest of the little crap that'll drive you nuts. Should be running under it's own power tonight, here's hoping!
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    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

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    1983 Honda Z50

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  13. #28
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    I like those 110CDI engines. My "90" project got one.

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    On a side note - I think I have a shifter for an ATC 90 you can have if you still need a replacement shifter. I missed your original note last year...

    Let me know - I think I even know where it is in the garage - I'll check.

  14. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by jb2wheels View Post
    I like those 110CDI engines. My "90" project got one.

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    On a side note - I think I have a shifter for an ATC 90 you can have if you still need a replacement shifter. I missed your original note last year...

    Let me know - I think I even know where it is in the garage - I'll check.
    Sweet looking 90! Did I miss the build? Thanks for the offer jb! Don't need a 90 shifter at the moment, those projects are on hooooold. The shifter that was on this works fine. The side case that sticks out broke when the shifter got hit but didn't do any other damage. I straightened the shift shaft and put a new seal in. It seems to be holding out. I sure have big plans for the underdogs, eh.
    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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  15. #30
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    Jun 2010
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    The 110 Lives Again!

    Well ole Fugly made it's first ride with the 110 engine last night. As normal with anything I touch it looks like I'm in for a bit more carb tuning/cleaning. Boy does this motor pull! The tranny was whining a bit at first but seems to have quietened (sp?) down now. Who knows how long that motor sat in the junk yard? It shifts well and the Hi-Lo works. I managed to break my 90 kill switch so I threw on the 110 control on the left handlebar for now. Who knows I might add lights down the road? A quick question on timing, I know timing is everything on a points motor, but does it really affect a CDI motor if the pulse generator timing is tweaked either way? It doesn't seem to make any difference in performance either way I move it? I've got to adjust the front fender so it doesn't hit the longer motor. Thought I'd run without it but ate too much mud without it.
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    Trikes
    1970/71 US 90 (Aquarius Blue)
    1970/71 US 90 (Future Project)
    1972/73 US 90 Camo Project (110 Big Bore)
    1972/73 US 90 Green
    1982 ATC 70
    1983 ATC 70 (Ladybug)
    1973 ATC 70

    1965 Marketeer 3 Wheel Golf Cart with 1986 Honda 250 drivetrain

    TF 2015

    Other
    1983 Honda Z50

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