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Thread: Big Red question.

  1. #1
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    Big Red question.

    Looking to buy a nice utility trike..never owned a big red and am now really looking into something i can use utility wise around the farm.
    Now, what big red year/model is the best? i know there were several years and models.
    I'm looking for the biggest engine, and body size there was made.
    And best for towing/pulling stuff around and other utility uses.
    What was the best year for this? thanks
    And is there any other good utility trike? let me know
    Last edited by honda200xguy; 08-07-2013 at 03:51 PM.
    ~~ATC's Currently Owned~~
    1983 Honda 200x - Main ATC
    1985 Honda 200x - Parts Bike

    ~~ATC's Previously Owned~~
    1983 Honda 250R
    1984 Honda 200X
    1979 Honda 110
    1983 Honda 125M
    1984 Honda 200
    1983 Kawasaki klt 200a
    1986 Honda 200s

    ~~Other Toys Owned~~
    2012 Pro R 800
    1993 Polaris Indy 500
    2004 Yamaha 125
    1990 Thunder Kart - 250CC
    2001 Yamaha Blaster - 240kit, aftermarket exhaust, power reeds

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    If you're looking for the biggest engine and body size that was made in the Big Red, then you'd be looking at the 250ES that was manufactured in any of the three years '85, '86, or '87.

    However, if you're open to a 'smaller' Big Red, the '84 200ES with shaft drive and reverse, is worthy of mention as well. Some prefer it over the 250ES because of it's dual range transmission which gives you the Lo range gear - essentially allowing you to pull a stump out of the ground
    1985 Honda ATC 250ES
    1985 Honda ATC 250SX
    1984 Honda ATC 200M
    1983 Honda ATC 200
    1984 Honda ATC 110

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    If it was my choice...

    1984 200ES.. Great utility, gearing is perfect for pulling and work.

    The 85 250ES is good to. But to be honest its not as good for hauling or plowing if you ever got to that point. The rear suspension bottoms out with the weight of a small trailer loaded up. And plowing with one, i have a buddy that has a 250ES with a Cycle Country plow on it, it hops and looses traction, where my 200ES with the solid rear end just digs into the ground until you stop it... LOL

    You definitely want reverse for utility use, which means 200ES or 250ES, you could even go 250SX which is shaft drive, etc. The 200ES is easier to find up here in MN, you will see some 250's as well but they always seem beat to crap by comparison. The 200ES in low range will make up for the slight engine size advantage of the 250, i can out pull them most of the time.

    Edit... Big G beat me to it while i was typing... Yep, in low range the 200ES is a stump pulling monster.
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    1984 Honda ATC200ES "Big Red"
    1982 ATC200E "Hondie"
    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

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    Looks like ill look into the 200es then 2.
    Not much on craigslist though
    ~~ATC's Currently Owned~~
    1983 Honda 200x - Main ATC
    1985 Honda 200x - Parts Bike

    ~~ATC's Previously Owned~~
    1983 Honda 250R
    1984 Honda 200X
    1979 Honda 110
    1983 Honda 125M
    1984 Honda 200
    1983 Kawasaki klt 200a
    1986 Honda 200s

    ~~Other Toys Owned~~
    2012 Pro R 800
    1993 Polaris Indy 500
    2004 Yamaha 125
    1990 Thunder Kart - 250CC
    2001 Yamaha Blaster - 240kit, aftermarket exhaust, power reeds

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    I think the polaris scrambler 250r/es would put the 250es and 200es out of work. It's a 250 2 stroke(like a 500 4 stroke), with a fully automatic trans, with reverse, It also gets around very well in the snow, and they cost about the same that a 250es or 200es would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb0nly View Post
    The rear suspension bottoms out with the weight of a small trailer loaded up.
    Curious, where is your ball receiver mounted..??

    Every ES/SX I've ever seen or owned has the receiver mounted on the axle..trailer weight can't cause the suspension to bottom if it's sitting on the axle. The only thing sitting on the suspension is the operator and whatever you load on the rear rack!

    I'm 260lbs and hit bumps so hard it's jarred my spine..never had my suspension bottom out..



    Personally for me the 1st choice would have to be the 250ES..the 200ES without rear suspension rides like a lumber truck!
    Last edited by dougspcs; 08-07-2013 at 04:31 PM.
    Current toys..
    1986 Honda 350X..trail bomb!
    1985 Honda 250SX..my main mudder
    1985 Honda 250ES..Back in Black Trike
    Current non-trike toys:
    1990 Honda TRX300FW
    1995 Seadoo GTX
    1998 Polaris Indy Lite 340(Nearly new looking)
    1998 Polaris Touring 500
    1998 Club Car (electric)

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    There is a 250es for sale on the Fargo or grand forks craigslist for like 1200. Not sure if the guy still has it but it looked to be in good shape.
    1986 Honda 200x 1985 Honda 200x x3 1974 Honda atc90 1979 Honda atc110 1987 Honda atc125m1977 Honda atc90 x2 1981 Honda atc110 1983 Honda atc110 superior blue 1984 Honda atc250r x2 1986 Honda atc350x 1984 Honda atc auto x 1982 Honda atc70 1985 Honda atc70 1983 Honda atc200e big red


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    Quote Originally Posted by RDH/86200X View Post
    There is a 250es for sale on the Fargo or grand forks craigslist for like 1200. Not sure if the guy still has it but it looked to be in good shape.
    Fargo is way to far.
    Looking for one i can restore myself, not a mint one.
    ~~ATC's Currently Owned~~
    1983 Honda 200x - Main ATC
    1985 Honda 200x - Parts Bike

    ~~ATC's Previously Owned~~
    1983 Honda 250R
    1984 Honda 200X
    1979 Honda 110
    1983 Honda 125M
    1984 Honda 200
    1983 Kawasaki klt 200a
    1986 Honda 200s

    ~~Other Toys Owned~~
    2012 Pro R 800
    1993 Polaris Indy 500
    2004 Yamaha 125
    1990 Thunder Kart - 250CC
    2001 Yamaha Blaster - 240kit, aftermarket exhaust, power reeds

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by honda200xguy View Post
    Fargo is way to far.
    Looking for one i can restore myself, not a mint one.
    $1200 for a mint one is a sweet deal..buy it!

    You buy a project trike and fix it up you'll be in for much more than that..

    In on for nearly $2200 on this one!

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    Current toys..
    1986 Honda 350X..trail bomb!
    1985 Honda 250SX..my main mudder
    1985 Honda 250ES..Back in Black Trike
    Current non-trike toys:
    1990 Honda TRX300FW
    1995 Seadoo GTX
    1998 Polaris Indy Lite 340(Nearly new looking)
    1998 Polaris Touring 500
    1998 Club Car (electric)

  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougspcs View Post
    $1200 for a mint one is a sweet deal..buy it!

    You buy a project trike and fix it up you'll be in for much more than that..

    In on for nearly $2200 on this one!

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    guy said "good condition" haha.
    i like doing restorations money isn't a problem!
    ~~ATC's Currently Owned~~
    1983 Honda 200x - Main ATC
    1985 Honda 200x - Parts Bike

    ~~ATC's Previously Owned~~
    1983 Honda 250R
    1984 Honda 200X
    1979 Honda 110
    1983 Honda 125M
    1984 Honda 200
    1983 Kawasaki klt 200a
    1986 Honda 200s

    ~~Other Toys Owned~~
    2012 Pro R 800
    1993 Polaris Indy 500
    2004 Yamaha 125
    1990 Thunder Kart - 250CC
    2001 Yamaha Blaster - 240kit, aftermarket exhaust, power reeds

  11. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougspcs View Post
    Curious, where is your ball receiver mounted..??

    Every ES/SX I've ever seen or owned has the receiver mounted on the axle..trailer weight can't cause the suspension to bottom if it's sitting on the axle. The only thing sitting on the suspension is the operator and whatever you load on the rear rack!

    I'm 260lbs and hit bumps so hard it's jarred my spine..never had my suspension bottom out..



    Personally for me the 1st choice would have to be the 250ES..the 200ES without rear suspension rides like a lumber truck!
    His ball is on the stock hitch on the axle, but think about a trailer... He has a lawn dump trailer, its rear heavy, so the trailer tongue is pulling up, as the rider bounces its bang bang bang listening to the suspension bottom out. Take the trailer off it doesn't do it. Logical or not thats how it works on his! LOL Maybe his shock is shot???? Would have to look into it.

    My 200ES certainly don't ride like a lumber truck.. If it does you got WAY too much air in the tires. The tires are the suspension. If they are over filled or too stiff of a tire, then sure it would ride hard, but neither my 200ES or the ATC90 ride hard enough to cause me any pain.

    I get a kick out of watching him trying to plow on his 250ES, he has three five gallon buckets full of concrete on the back rack along with a weight box on the hitch and some sand tubes in that. If i add any weight its usually a battery box and deep cycle battery i add in the winter for more power and jump starting the snowblower i also haul around for sidewalk clearing. I have some weights i can add if its really icy, but they don't ride with all winter. His hops while plowing, my 200ES just digs, i have made huge holes in the driveway by accident.. LOL

    Don't get me wrong, i love the 250ES just as well as my 200ES! Just stating real world experience with them.
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    1984 Honda ATC200ES "Big Red"
    1982 ATC200E "Hondie"
    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by honda200xguy View Post
    guy said "good condition" haha.
    i like doing restorations money isn't a problem!
    There was a 200ES listed up in Pine County, i think it was Hinckley area on CL. It was $700 or best offer, not sure if it sold or not i would have to search and see if the ad is still listed on CL. That one looked good plastic wise, exhaust was rotted out and it needed new tires but was otherwise all there.
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    1984 Honda ATC200ES "Big Red"
    1982 ATC200E "Hondie"
    1988 TRX300FW "Project Quad" Still in progress....

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