tires and tubes?

[captainweezy]

I would certainly think there would be zero issues with a tube in the front tire. I guess folks could debate over rear tires forever.

I had to put a tube in the front on my 250es big red. Great tread but weather cracked. 25x12x9 size. So i dropped it off at and actual tire shop instead of busting it down myself(working 14-15 hours a day). $47 dollars later i put it back on the big red and that thing was so hard to steer it wasnt funny. The pressure correct.
Also another thing is if the tube is ruined, there you have more money to spend on replacing the tube.
Just my opinion.

[kb0nly]

Tire slime is the devil, hate that stuff. I wish they would outlaw it, had to deal with another rusty wheel with it in there.

As for the tube causing the front tire to be different when it comes to steering... I think there must be something else going on there. I put a tube in the front tire of my 200ES after dealing with it a few months going flat every week. I didn't notice any difference in handling or steering whatsoever. A tube shouldn't change the characteristics of a tire that it would affect handling.

My guess the tire shop did something wrong, although i can't figure out what that would be. I havent had a tube yet that i had to toss and replace. Its so easy to fix a tube that i generally do it myself. A patch kit and a little time. I could pull one apart and do it in the middle of nowhere if i wanted its not rocket science. I had one that was a rubber valvestem that got pulled and ripped, i still didn't toss that one either. I found a source for glue on valvestem patches online, both rubber and the threaded ones. Costs about half the price of a new tube.

[captainweezy]

Your right maybe i put it on upside down. Last time i give my 2 cents.

[John 4]

Tire slime is the devil, hate that stuff. I wish they would outlaw it, had to deal with another rusty wheel with it in there.

I would hate it too if i used it on steel rims. I would never even consider using slime or fix-a-flat with a steel rim!

[kb0nly]

I think it has its place but man i hate the stuff with a passion! Always makes a big mess for me, the guy that has to fix it right, when i fix it the right way.

Hey captain don't get so hostile... I was just pointing out that a tube should not change the characteristics of a tire, if it did then i doubt they would be used on anything! I have seen car and truck tires pulled apart and a tube put in them and then tossed back on the balancer and it made little if any difference because the weight is distributed equally for the most part. Generally the shop i take my stuff to has to toss a small weight on opposite of the valvestem because thats the only weight difference after adding that heavier metal piece to one side of the wheel.

Only thing i can suggest, from experience, is that even though the repaired tire had the correct amount of pressure in it, due to the tube it was now more rigid then it was on its own. Because the tire was cracked and had some give to it from age, basically softer. I know when i plow in the winter i drop my front tire down a couple pounds to make it softer and help with turning. If the front tire is harder it turns harder, thats just normal.

Didn't mean to get your dander up! :-)

[honda atc guy]

I'd rather use plugs and slime.

But they don't help with a tire that has good tread and the tire is losing air because of cracks. Been there, done that. But I believe plugs would be better if applicable.

[honda atc guy]

I had to put a tube in the front on my 250es big red. Great tread but weather cracked. 25x12x9 size. So i dropped it off at and actual tire shop instead of busting it down myself(working 14-15 hours a day). $47 dollars later i put it back on the big red and that thing was so hard to steer it wasnt funny. The pressure correct.
Also another thing is if the tube is ruined, there you have more money to spend on replacing the tube.
Just my opinion.

I've never had an issue. In your case, I might have lowered the air pressure to see if it would make a difference. Couldn't hurt.

[threewheelin-feelin]

i bought a 250es with tubes in the rear tires and i will never ever have tubes in them again. it felt very very unstable and when making a turn it almost felt like the tire was rolling off the rim. you can find some decent knobbies on ebay for not to expensive. here is a set of 2 kendas http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-x-12-x-9-...325bc5&vxp=mtr

[Gearheadtom]

Maybe it's just the two tires I dealt with that had tubes in them, but the tubes seemed to hold moisture and caused the rims to rust, making it so the rim would never seal with a tubeless tire again. Those were also both 2 pieces rims, so the non-existent center seal of the rims may have caused water to get in which causes to rust, or it could have been just a fluke, and normally a tube never causes a rust problem like that.

[tri again]

My car dealer neighbor found tubes for 15$ Carlile metal stems.
Up until now, tubes were 30 and tires 50 so an easy decision.

Anyway, he deslimed and mounted them for 10 bucks so I'll let you know how
long they last.

Thanks for ALL the suggestions.