250r - sitting for 10 yrs (small video of it running!!)

[NO-SCALES]

ok , I got a lead on a 250r that's been sitting for 10 years. said he landed on his back and hurt it (his back)pretty good and hasn't been on it since. said it ran when he parked it. he said come look and make him an offer. so im going to try to make his way this weekend. he said the plastic was rough when he got it and they still are( im sure they are rougher now)

whats your opinions on a fair price???

if I do get it , change all fluids , clean carb , put in new plug and try to start??? or is there something else I should do first??


thanks for any advice

[dougspcs]

Impossible for us to answer...very sketchy info!!

Air or liquid cooled? Mechanical state??? How was it treated and cared for in the 1st 15ish years of it's life??

A pretty broad range for a 250r..could be $200 worth of machine, maybe $800-900..

As little as possible is the only right answer, then perhaps be ready to empty your wallet to make it right again!

[C.J]

I agree. You'll want to replace crank seals, may need to do one helluva coolant system cleaning, hope the water pump seal didnt decide to crap out while sitting, has it been turned over while sitting or has it sat untouched, you can guarantee that the oil is off of the sleeve and theres bound to be some surface rust. lots of lots of variables

[NO-SCALES]

OK, SO ID DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A LIQUID COOLED R I GUESS ( I haven't had an r before ).... im new here sorry. thanks for all the info so far, definitely stuff to look for and I appreciate it. I don't want to overpay for a pos. as little as possible is the plan for sure,

what is the big price difference ( you say a 200 or a 8-900 machine ) is that the air vs water cooled??

sorry for the sketchy info , that's all I know , for know, mainly looking for stuff to look out for. he did say he paid 1100 for it 12years ago. and that it ran great when it was parked.

[Cornholio]

Whatever it is, Check for mousenests in the pipe. It got me and my dad when we rebuilt our 86 that was sitting for 6 years. Sucked it right in the jug and siezed it up, had to pull the head off to free it up. Never gonna make that mistake again.

[Marty]

If it is liquid cooled here in the west I wild never pay more than $1200 for an ATC! Now plastic is everything; anything on bike can be fixed but you cant fix plastic. When you go look at ATC look at it like it does not have plastic on it are tires good, does motor have compression, does it have a ton of hours? Then look at plastic separate is it in good condition? Or is plastic beat to hell, your call but those are a few pointers.
One more thing if it is an 86 ATC 250R the value goes another few hundred bucks not many of those produced and sold and remaining ones that were left at dealers were cut up! Here out west 1985 ATC 250R's are really common but 1986 ATC 250R's do not pop up very often! good luck

[rg97]

what is the big price difference ( you say a 200 or a 8-900 machine ) is that the air vs water cooled??

Air foolers are generally cheaper, but not by that much. they are all great machines. The price can differ based on the overall condition of everything, i think mainly the engine. but other things, like rust, fender condition can change the price. possible aftermarkets raise it too. aftermarket pipes are common, and some are more rare than others. Very rare parts raise the price a lot. Sounds sketchy, just dont go home with a POC that you paid a million for
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[dougspcs]

OK, SO ID DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A LIQUID COOLED R I GUESS ( I haven't had an r before ).... im new here sorry. thanks for all the info so far, definitely stuff to look for and I appreciate it. I don't want to overpay for a pos. as little as possible is the plan for sure,

what is the big price difference ( you say a 200 or a 8-900 machine ) is that the air vs water cooled??

sorry for the sketchy info , that's all I know , for know, mainly looking for stuff to look out for. he did say he paid 1100 for it 12years ago. and that it ran great when it was parked.

Yes 84 and earlier are air cooled, 85-86 are liquid cooled.

Air cooled were typically a cheaper machine to buy now..the liquid cooled more sought after but a money pit if in rough shape.

Water pump and engine side covers(sprocket side) are near impossible to find on the 85-86.

Best to gather some 411 first and even a recon for some pics..we might be able to help more.

[Worden18]

I don't believe in the "ran good when it was parked" thing...as far as that being to the seller's advantage. It's to YOUR advantage on negotiating a better price if it is indeed NOT running. You have to do all the work to get it running, and take the risks of what might be wrong with it when you GET it running. Make sure you mention that to the seller.

[Jwmajic]

If its not running assume its a parts bike and don't overpay.

[dougspcs]

I don't believe in the "ran good when it was parked" thing...as far as that being to the seller's advantage. It's to YOUR advantage on negotiating a better price if it is indeed NOT running. You have to do all the work to get it running, and take the risks of what might be wrong with it when you GET it running. Make sure you mention that to the seller.

Before the internet there were 3 big lies in the universe..

1/ I love you
2/ The check is in the mail
and
3/ Baby, don't worry I'll pull out!!

Post internet there is are two more..

4/ 'ran great when parked'
and
5/ MINT!!!

Sometimes I just wish we could go back to simpler times when people were essentially honest!!

[NO-SCALES]

Went to see it today...tires are shot, back plastic is stitched up. All looks to be there. Says its an 86. We talked price a little., he said he would like 300 ...cash or trade for something. If i cant find something to trade quick im gonna offer 2.... Maybe settle for 250.. My phone wont post pics on forum for some reason

[atc007]

If it's a 86 you can't get hurt at that price. Granted, there are some real HEAPS out there! But if it has compression,you're fine.

[poohbee1]

Before the internet there were 3 big lies in the universe..

1/ I love you
2/ The check is in the mail
and
3/ Baby, don't worry I'll pull out!!

Post internet there is are two more..

4/ 'ran great when parked'
and
5/ MINT!!!

Sometimes I just wish we could go back to simpler times when people were essentially honest!!

6 carb needs cleaned

[C.J]

6 carb needs cleaned

7 Needs to be jetted