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    200m - throttle needle stuck

    these don't appear to be to popular. handlebars sure do feel different, smaller or something. I do like that it has electric start though. guy said coil went out on it. so I moved it out of his way for him. 1984 200m. gas tank looks to be in great shape, inside and out. I was really shocked to see how clean it was on the inside.

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    AFTER PLAYING AROUND WITH IT FOR A FEW, I GO AND TRY TO TAKE OFF THE CARB BUT THE NEEDLE ( I GUESS ) IS STUCK. THE CAMP UNSCREWS OFF BUT UNLY MOVES ABOUT AN INCH.

    ANY IDEAS???

    CAN I JUST REACH IN WITH SOME NEEDLE NOSE PLIERS AND TRY NOT TO BREAK. I BUT SOME MARVEL MYSTERY OUL IN THERE TO MAYBE LOOSEN IT UP . DOESNT REALLY HOLD THOUGH , IT JUST LEAKS OUT.

    LOOKS TO BE ORIGINAL CARB SO ID LIKE TO KEEP IT IF POSSIBLE

    THAT CHOKE CABLE IS PRETTY COOL!!! ANYBODY PUT THESE ON OTHER BIKES??
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    They are good little trikes, basically a 200s with electric start.
    Too bad it didnt come with a rack.

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    Hard to tell from the picture but I think that trike looks pretty good.

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    thats a nice rig actually!
    1984 Honda ATC200ES saved

    Project in progress 1984 ATC200ES with Trx200 rear suspension/200m front suspension

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    Not too bad.. I bet racks are hard to find for it though.
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    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
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    Hey I have rear racks for that trike ! Hey PM me ......

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    Pm sent to ya jwheeler
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    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
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    I would suspect a 200es rack would fit on it as well. If you need any more parts I have some parts for a 185s and 200es machines (both similar to yours), I can check if the parts interchange or not.

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    Ps2fixer , im sure ill be hittin you up for parts soon.

    I posted in my original post some carb isssues , if any body has any ideas
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    The plunger is stuck in the bore..probably gummed up from an extended sitting time.

    Spray some WD under the cap so it runs down into the bore to the top of the slide..lots is good.

    Let it sit overnight and try to remove in the morning..if really stuck use a small hand torch and WARM the top of the carb and give the cable another good solid yank!

    It should go..

    Now if this thing was dumped in a creek, drowned with muddy water and parked that carb/cable may not separate..you may be calling Cory(PS2fixer) for parts sooner than you thought.

    But give it a try!!
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    Thanks, ill try again tonight, if mmo didnt loosen it ill but some wd in there and let it sit again.
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    Quote Originally Posted by NO-SCALES View Post
    Thanks, ill try again tonight, if mmo didnt loosen it ill but some wd in there and let it sit again.
    Sounds good, but no tools like needle nose..you scratch up the bore inside that carb is junk! If you can't pull it apart with your hands it hasn't soaked long enough!
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    1998 Polaris Indy Lite 340(Nearly new looking)
    1998 Polaris Touring 500
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    I've taken apart a few old 185/200 carbs that had so much varnish in the bowl the needle was effectively glued to the needle jet.

    If soaking from the top doesn't help, take the bowl off and give it lots of spray carb cleaner.

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    holy crap!!!!!!!!!!! This is nasty ... Ive seen worse pics but never in person.

    Still havent got that needle out yet
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    Holy..... Man that thing needs one serious bath...

    If you still can't get the needle out after removing the jet here is one trick i had to do on a severely dirty carb once... Reach down into the slide with a small dental pick, metal pick that is, and remove the clip from the needle so that you can pull the slide up and out of the carb leaving the needle stuck in there by its self. Now you can soak around the needle with some PB Blaster. Worst case you just have to knock out the needle seat with the needle still in it. Thats not to hard to do generally, i haven't had one yet, knock on wood, that didnt come out with a few taps from the bottom.
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