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    250r - am i still lean???



    ALRIGHT , I FINALLY GOT THE BRAKES WORKING. PUT REAR MASTER FROM A TRX ON IT FOR THR TIME BEING. AIRBOX CLEANED AND THE K&N FILTER CLEANED UP PRETTY NICE.

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    IM NEW TO 2STROKES DOES IT SOUND LIKE IM STILL LEAN AS SOMEONE SAID BEFORE? NOW THAT I PUT THE FILTER AND AIRBOX ON, THOUGHT IT MIGHT HELP. IT SMOKES . LIKE A TRAIN. I HAVE NEVER DRIVEN AN ATV WITH A CLUTCH , TILL LAST NIGHT. HOLY CRAP!!! MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN POWER THAN THE OL 185S OR THE SX. I MIGHT HAVE GOT IT INTO 4TH GEAR. I RODE IT FOR A LITTLE BIT. I CAN SEE HOW PEOPLE HURT THEMSELVES ON THINGS (THESE THINGS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL: . I DIDNT DO ANY WHEELIE POPPIN BUT IN 3RD GEAR, I CAN SEE THAT IT WOULD BE ABLE TO WITH SOME PRACTICE, TONS OF POWER!!! IM IMPRESSED. IT STILL NEEDS LOTS OF WORK COSMETICALLY. LOOKS LIKE A MOSQUITO FOGGER HAULLING @$$. IM GOING TO TRY SOME SYNTHETIC OIL AND SEE IF THAT HELPS. IM TRYING TO FIND SOME AMSOIL LOCALLY, BUT LOOKS LIKE I MIGHT HAVE TO GET SOMEONE TO ORDER IT. I FOUND SOME LUCAS SEMI-SYNTHETIC. ANY ONE TRIED THAT???? ( NOT TRING TO START ANOTHER OIL THREAD) I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO BUY A COMPRESSION TESTER YET. I HOPE ITS NOT SMOKING SO BAD CAUSE OF A BAD CRANK SEAL. I LIKE TO PLAY ON THIS FOR LITTLE BIT.
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    The title asks if its lean but you state it is smoking like a freight train...I am confused. If its smoking like a freight train then its either rich or it may need new rings depending on how bad the smoke is. The smoke coming from your exhaust at idle looks about right. What is your fuel to oil ratio? I typically run 36:1 but 32:1 is OK as well.
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    YEAH IT DOESNT LOOK TOO BAD AT IDLE , BUT WHILE DRIVING, IT LEAVES A TRAIL. SURE CANT RUN AND HIDE FROM ANYBODY, ALL THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IS FOLLOW THE SMOKE TRAIL. IM MIXED AT 32:1 THIS IS THE FIRST TANK ITS HAD RUN THROUGH IT IN 10 YRS. IM GOING TO TRY SYNTHETIC AND SEE IF THAT HELPS. BUT I CANT FIND ANYTHING DECENT LOCALLY



    SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT THIS VIDEO SOUNDED LEAN. I DONT WANT TO HURT ANYTHING RUNNING LEAN. AFTER I GET SOME NEW OIL ILL PUT IN A NEW PLUG AT THAT TIME AND SEE HOW IT LOOKS, IT HAS A NEW PLUG IN IT NOW, I JUST HADNT HAD TIME TO PULL IT AND SEE HOW IT LOOKS AFTER RUNNING IT YESTERDAY.
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    if you are talking about tranny oil I would run and get some Honda HP 80W at your local dealer. A link to this oil is below
    http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/pr...FbF0QgodbSMA0w

    If its blowing excessive smoke in the higher gears it could be many things....rings and seals are a good place to start. The only true way to know if your seals are bad is to perform a pressure test on the crank case. The method for doing this is below.
    http://www.klemmvintage.com/airleaks.htm

    Harry Klemm can build you a pressure tester for 40 bucks.
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    Thanks ill try to look him up, i was talking about premix oil. I have read on here about different premixes, and id like to try some of that amsoil, but cant find any locally.
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    THIS ISNT ME OR MY VIDEO, BUT ID SAY ITS SMOKING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIBORHOOD OF THIS BIKE HERE

    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    It is hard to tell by hearing it idle. Give it some blips of the throttle and post it If your main jet is too small, it won't really effect your idle at all. If there is a trail of smoke your crank seal is probably bad. Letting gear oil into the crank and cylinder.

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    Ill try to get another video tonight. Thanks for the help
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    Try 44-1 oil ratio first. 32-1 may be a tad much .... and that douchebag in the video sounds like he has the choke on and had weedeater mix in it...... You may just have to get it wound up a few times and clean her out after all those years. Give it some ride time before you start throwing money at it. Good luck.....and be careful!
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    Haha, thought yall would like that video. Ill try some 44:1
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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    I run 40:1 in my R, smokes a lot less than my friends who run 32:1. I can understand your concern about the smoking if you're new to 2 strokes. You will learn to love that smell. I'd be more concerned if you're not smoking.

    Keep an eye on your trans fluid, if it goes low after a ride, its pretty easy to tell its a bad crank seal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NO-SCALES View Post
    Thanks ill try to look him up, i was talking about premix oil. I have read on here about different premixes, and id like to try some of that amsoil, but cant find any locally.
    Oh, for pre-mix I would either run Maxima 927 Castor or if you want less smoke then try Maxima Super M. Klotz BeNOL is also a very good product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NO-SCALES View Post
    THIS ISNT ME OR MY VIDEO, BUT ID SAY ITS SMOKING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIBORHOOD OF THIS BIKE HERE

    If you are smoking like that guy then I would say you have a problem.....
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    If its running good throughout from low rpms to wide open then leave it the way it is! Little smoke isn't going to hurt.. do a compression test just to see what your dealing with, other then that ride the hell out of it!

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    Just got off the phone with a local amsoil distibuter, he said he is going to bring me a quart of the dominator, which is what he recomended vs the interceptor. He said there isnt a big difference in the two, but he said to run 50:1. Ill try somewhere between 40 &50 i reakon
    85 Honda 250sx- STILL IN PIECES!!!
    84 Honda 185s - traded off
    85 Yamaha 225dr - parts machine for now
    83 Yamaha tri-zinger 60cc - my sons first 3wheeler. $300 for zinger, $4000 for a broken leg, memories for a life time - PRICELESS
    85 Honda Big Red 250es - traded off
    86 Honda 250r - traded off
    85 Kawasaki Tecate - new toy
    84 Honda 200m - super clean puttin around toy

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