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Thread: HELP! another 85 250R clutch play problem

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    when i built my 310 i used the barnett dirt digger clutch kit. it is a very smooth operating clutch
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    El Camexican raises a very good point about the length of the cable in relation to the housing!

    Along with that, I generally stay away from clutch lever and perch setups that are advertised as "easy pull". They usually accomplish this by moving the cable anchor point in the lever closer to the pivot point in the perch. While this does in fact reduce the amount of force needed to pull the clutch lever, it in turn shortens the amount of pull you will have on the cable.

    It sounds to me like you have a bad combination of clutch lever and perch. It's not likely you have internal problems as those parts rarely fail..at least I have never had one of those components fail anyway...

    Do you have a clutch lever and perch kicking around that will lengthen the amount of pull you can exert on the cable to try out?
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    Yea, that lever assembly sounds like it might be adding to the issue. Can you still get an OEM cable for that unit?

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    Get the correct cable.

    Come on, it's a damn cable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or in internal wear ISSUE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Camexican View Post
    Yea, that lever assembly sounds like it might be adding to the issue. Can you still get an OEM cable for that unit?
    rocky mountain atv has oem cables listed in stock for $20 plus shipping. i found mine new in package on ebay for like $15 shipped. either way they are still available
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    Just cut another adjuster barrel from another lever and add it to the existing clutch lever adjuster to space the cable out. See if it works.

    I have one of those cables on my R. It works fine. Also I have seen the big nut on the basket loosen up and back off causing the whole basket to push out when you use the clutch. It does that until the cable can't compensate then usually blows the threads out of the nut..

    And I never use HD clutch springs unless on a high HP drag machine. Imo they are useless for all around riders and the stock springs have always been adequate for even modded machines.

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    I just bought an '85 250R OEM clutch cable, paired it up with the Motion Pro I currently have. These are identical. My issue is definitely internal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3wheelrider View Post
    Well- I wish I had pictures-but anyway: I have a problem with no almost no actuation as if the cable was too long -but its not-I think. Also, I believe my clutch (hand) lever may be compounding the issue cause it only pulls the cable 5/8" when I pull in the hand lever. The hand lever has quite a inward bend that bumps the bars. Also -the clutch springs which were replaced are longer/stiffer which is too hard! Big strain on parts & my hand too. Damn, I wish I still had the stock clutch springs/cable/perch/lever!
    LEVER ASSY - If your lever assy is not stock and you want to get a stock one, the oem fiche below shows the original lever assy which they have in stock. You might also find a new one at partzilla or a used one at a salvage yard or here on the site.

    http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-atc250r-1...2.html#results


    STOCK CLUTCH SPRINGS - The original springs are available. See item 11 in the first link below. The price on their site is in English Pounds, the prices below are US.

    p/n 22401-ML3-910, $4.95

    http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-atc250r-1...4.html#results


    p/n 22401-ML3-910, $3.86

    http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detai...1-ML3-910.html

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