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Thread: 1984 Honda 200x Kick Start slipping/not engaging fully?!?!

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    1984 Honda 200x Kick Start slipping/not engaging fully?!?!

    Recently picked up the machine from a good friend who's come across a 350X, so he up and gave me his '84 200x. Overall in "ok" condition. Needs a few things to be up to par. Biggest problem I'm having is the kick start won't fully engage. . .like it's slipping. So I pulled the kick start cover off and the gears look great! No wear marks on anything really.

    I heard there should be one or two springs pertaining to the gear assembly? I've been trying to find a parts blow up of the assembly and can't seem to find anything anywhere :/ Not sure what else to do at this point. If someone out there has a diagram they could email me or just post in a reply to this thread that would be fantastic!

    Best Regards to everyone!
    Last edited by HNDA125M; 11-19-2013 at 12:40 AM. Reason: spelling errors

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    Hope this helps
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    Hope this helps
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    If everything looked good when you pulled the cover off then unfortunately you have a bigger issue that will require splitting the case if you want to fix it. The kick starters on these bikes had some design flaws that led to them failing, if you search around there are a lot of threads on the topic.
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    I have the upgraded parts you need to do the repair in stock .

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    [QUOTE=Bren_downe;1266148]Click image for larger version. 

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    Hope this helps[/QUOTE

    Quite a bit actually. . .looks like I'm gonna have to split the case :/ Which sucks butt but maybe I can upgrade a few things while doing this

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    shortline10, I would love to purchase improved parts. . .problem is I can't access your page :/ What's the damage for the repair kit and what does it include?

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    135.00 plus shipping cost .
    Includes 2 new ratchet gears and upgraded stronger ratchet spring .


    Quote Originally Posted by HNDA125M View Post
    shortline10, I would love to purchase improved parts. . .problem is I can't access your page :/ What's the damage for the repair kit and what does it include?
    78 atc 90/180cc Dickson Full Suspension
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    Before you do that, check your splines! I had the same problem, and my kicker screw wasnt tightened enough and the splines werent gripping.
    Do this. Whenever it 'slips', can you bring the kicker back up without noise? If yes, then its something internal. If no, check your splines.
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    same problem i have. one of the kickstarter gears binded or broke teeth off and are not catching. split the case and the job will become apparent.
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    Thanks for the input guys! I'll start on it at some point this week and I'll keep ya's updated!

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    If its the tranny side of the kicker gears yes it will be obvious and missing teeth BUT if its ratchet teeth that are worn its hard to tell and defiantly not apparent .

    Quote Originally Posted by honda200xguy View Post
    same problem i have. one of the kickstarter gears binded or broke teeth off and are not catching. split the case and the job will become apparent.
    78 atc 90/180cc Dickson Full Suspension
    76 ATC90/180cc Nicholson
    77 atc 90 Dickson Full Suspension
    84 KLT 110/123cc Powroll Racer from 80s
    87 atc 125m stock
    84 atc 200x Curtis Sparks
    84 atc 200x Powroll My race bike from 80's
    83 atc70/108cc Powroll blue Xmas Special
    81 atc185s HP-ATC full suspension

    Performance Shop is Open PM me for Service

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    Just found out yesterday the friend I got the machine from backed off a "set bolt" located in the backside of the case. Also found out there's a flat spot on the secondary shaft for this bolt to seat and hold one of the springs in place. . .thinking I may have found the problem before even diving into it. . .fingers crossed though :/ Haven't had a chance to do the split yet. Trying to find a heater for the garage, nothing worse than working with cold tools :/ lol

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    200x slipping kickstarter

    Quote Originally Posted by shortline10 View Post
    I have the upgraded parts you need to do the repair in stock .

    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...-S-piston-kits
    I found an old post regarding slipping 200x kickstarter . If you still have repair parts,I'd really like to buy them.Really want to keep the old 200x manual clutch instead of swapping auto engine . I tried to PM ,but I guess that my new member status won't allow ? Thankyou , Tim

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    Email me at shortlynx@earthlink.net if you need a kit .
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