84 ATC 200ES Big Red Progress. /Questions

[Dave_D]

Well as posted in this thread http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...64142-ATC-185s I picked up a couple new to me trikes. One complete one parts




And here's the parts one




I posted a couple kinda questions on the last thread. But I know now its for sure not a neutral light problem now.
But I currently don't have spark and don't know where to start. Could it be the coil from being left turned on to long ?
We swear we saw a spark today. But it never returned or couldn't get it to return.
Could it be the plug or the boot ?

Any input is appreciated

Thanks
Dave

[Dave_D]

I stumbled across this thread http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...t-MythBusted.. could it be the CDI ?

Dave

[DohcBikes]

could it be the CDI?
Dave

Could it be the coil

Could it be the plug or the boot ?

Dave

Yes,yes,yes,and yes. Its time to test each component. Do you have a manual with the component specs?

[Dave_D]

I've downloaded the manual haven't looked through it yet though.
I'm at work now but does it specify how to test each component ?
I'll probably pick up a plug after work. Have a feeling it's not the problem but it's 4 bucks locally and I'd probably end up putting a new one in it anyways
Thanks for your reply

Dave

[tri again]

Some folks replace entire wire harnesses (me included) only to admit the old one was probably ok but just going through EVERY connection, they magically work.
and yes,
My all time favorite intermittent spark fix is:
nip the last tiny bit off the plug wire so the spark plug cap has new copper to bite into.
Had that be a problem on at least 10 machines.
and of course, ohm all the other stuff too
Manual gives the service limits for all components.
I like an old analog meter for those tests.
Digitals jump around too much for me.

try search key for
"intermittent spark"
I usually read ALL the posts, even if it isn't the machine I'm working on.
also, pull off the cover that says "CDI".
They get superfine red rustdust for some reason and could mess up that sensor, trigger coil or whatever it's called in there to tell it when to spark.

[Dave_D]

I went over it already checking connections and did snip off the end of the plug wire
I'll start looking into the manual avd testing everything next

I have tryed the CDI and sensor thing under CDI cover on the engine. Off of parts trike still nothing it's missing the coil so dident try that. Still hoping it's something simple
Wonder if it's worth trying the coil off my ytm if it's even possible ?

Thanks

Dave

[DohcBikes]

The coil tests are easy, and yes they are outlined in the manual. Let us know!

[Dave_D]

I can't believe this
Put a new plug in it and......
It fired up first pull

I was very surprised no matter what I did I couldn't get it to make a spark before screw driver in the boot holding the shaft like 1/16th off the block
Held the plug in my hand didn't feel a thing.

But today I was riding it up and down the road. So happy lol

Thanks
Dave

[DohcBikes]

Congrats

Believe it Dave, plugs are often overlooked and four strokes foul too! I've bought brand new plugs that wouldn't fire as well.

Trike on Brother!

[Dave_D]

I have a question now.
The shifter to go from high low reverse is extremely stiff. any reason, maybe from sitting, adjustable in anyway ?
The one on my parts machine is completely effortless to go between the 3 positions

Any input is appreciated

Thanks
Dave

[kb0nly]

Just sticking from sitting i'm sure. My 200ES was the same way when i got it, i soaked around the back side of the lever with some PB Blaster then down around the shaft of the shifter, the part you pull up on to change positions. You can also remove the nut that it slides through and squirt some lube around in there as well. With some use it will loosen up. The other problem i generally have is it won't always shift unless its running and in first gear, sitting still just idling in first, then it will shift back and forth with ease.

[Dave_D]

Well the front suspension is shot on this thing lift the rack and the tire drops
Easy to fix worth fixing ?
Opinions

Also has a little noise coming from engine I'm guessing cam chain adjustment but really could be anything

Thanks

Dave

[Chopsaw]

The front ends are a bad design . Mine was not to bad , I took it apart cleaned it and replaced just the plastic slide bushings . (cheap ) works good enough . Some are worn so bad they have slop back and forth .

Cam chain adjustment fixed my engine noise .

[Dave_D]

I've stumbled across a few threads mentioning there machine had welded forks also found some links on google stating it

Is it a stupid idea or a big no no ?

Dave

[Chopsaw]

How bad are they ? If they are just stiff , no slop I would clean them out , replace the bushings and call it good .