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Thread: YTM-225 rear shock coil spring

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    YTM-225 rear shock coil spring

    I have a question for the suspension specialist here. Here are 2 pictures of Yamaha YTM-225DX shocks.
    Which spring is harder?


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    or this one
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    That would depend on the diameter of the wire in the spring, number of coils, free spring length, and even age and steel composition.

    From the pics, I would say that judging by the wire size and less number of coils, that the grey spring has a higher rate, and discounting shock valving and preload, would be stiffer.

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    I'd say the black one, because it has one more coil.
    I might be wrong, I'm no specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave ytz250s View Post
    I'd say the black one, because it has one more coil.
    I might be wrong, I'm no specialist.
    More coils = softer spring
    -Chad

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    Quote Originally Posted by MojaveRider View Post
    More coils = softer spring
    Oh thanks, I thought that for the same diameter wire if you have a longer wire compressed to the same height it would be stiffer

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    For a single rate spring, the actual spring rate stays consistent throughout the travel, regardless of how far it is compressed. Same diameter+more coils =softer.

    Of course these are not single rate springs, so it will be harder to judge by just counting coils and comparing diameter, and the "stiffness" felt would be a combo of the shock and spring assembly.

    I'm stickin with the grey one LOL

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