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    Wont start unless pulled behind truck?

    i have a 83 200e with a highly built motor, it has great spark if you pull it extremely fast, if you pullstart it normal it has no spark and the electric starter will not turn the engine over quick enough to spark either.
    is this the stator or flywheel worn out?
    i found new source coils but no new flywheels?

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    I would check stator. how is compression?
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    Thats a usual sign of low compression; However, many things could cause that same symptom.....
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    Compression is insane, 12.5 to 1 will rip the pull handle out of your hand if you dont use the decomp. lever
    Its the spark thats the problem the motor is brand new build

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    Check the connections on all your witres. also chech for corrosion. check your plug wire.
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    Maybe try a new spark plug? Lol that would be cool if thats all it was..
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    Did you TEST the coils with a meter?

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    new plug, new harness, new cdi, new motor all around. the only used thing on the motor is the stator and flywheel. if i pullstart it normal pull with plug out it has no spark - if i pull it super fast it has great spark? i dont get it, a guy at the bike shop said my stator is probably week and only produces a spark when i pull it over a certain rpm?

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    Did you TEST the stator with a meter?

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    New electrical components also regularly fail. Testing them is the only way to know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiirider View Post
    i have a 83 200e with a highly built motor, it has great spark if you pull it extremely fast, if you pullstart it normal it has no spark and the electric starter will not turn the engine over quick enough to spark either.
    is this the stator or flywheel worn out?
    i found new source coils but no new flywheels?

    a guy at the bike shop said my stator is probably week and only produces a spark when i pull it over a certain rpm?
    Did it ever start properly since you have owned it?

    how does it run once it is running?

    does it idle ok?

    it should not idle from what you are saying.



    I would do the following.

    try new spark plug and clean all connections and test coils per manual as suggested.

    the stator has two wires going to 1 plug, this is the electrical charging circuit and may have no affect on how it runs.

    it has another brown or black wire.

    pull the brown or black wire.

    connect a volt meter that has a memory that retains peak voltages.

    remove the spark plug.

    kick it over fast but carefully.

    look at the voltage, if it reads 35 volts it is low but should still have spark at idle, 45 or more is very good.

    if it is below 35 volts, your stator ign coil might be bad. ohm test it per the manual as mentioned.

    if it ohms correctly per the manual, your flywheel might have lost most of its magnetism. although they can loose some, losing enough so the coil produces little to no spark is unheard of.

    try a new flywheel or simply start changing other parts like ignition spark coil then cdi.

    unfortunately new parts do not guarantee anything these days. many are worse than the origs even if they are oem. the NOS parts work but are rare and very pricey. try cmsnl.com if you need any, they stock many of them.

    Chinese cdi's can be had on ebay for less than $5.00 and they apparantly work. yes only five smackaroos. don't know how they do it. buy a spare if you need one.

    kbolnly and others know how to wire them plus there are a few threads you might find using the search engine function.

    just type in "cdi" and it should pull up hundreds of threads regarding HONDA [not Kawi, lol] cdi's. yes a kawi kxt might occasionally hurl the magnets, but if it does, it is obvious and therefore easy to diagnose, lool.

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    you seem to be ignoring the fact several on here have asked about you testing the stator. have you? if not then that should be your very next move. what is your plug gap? if it is too big or too small it can cause issues. for 12:1 you need to have it at like 22-24 thousandths
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    thanks for the input! i will test the stator asap i do not have a voltmeter or ohmmeter but will try to borrow one
    the guy at the shop here is a electrical genius, hes convinced its the stator or flywheel lost magnetism, i cannot find a new flywheel. the rest of the electrical system is brand new including the cdi and ign coil

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    Apparently barnett is back to long winded, marathon posts. Sheesh.

    There's one other thing you could check... You said you just rebuilt the engine. Did you hook all the wires back up properly?
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