new guy scored a nice ytm200.....and has questions

[barnett468]

well no one had an air filter locally.... so i ordered the moose racing one off ebay, it wont be here for a few days.... so using a bit of afro-engineering i put this together till my real one gets here....lol, i cut a piece of a t-shirt and am gonna spray it with a little k&n oil

Hello kawaboy;

That is certainly innovative, lol, however, I don't exactly know how to say this without sounding like some panty hose pervert or something, but in all seriousness [as if this can be taken seriously], you might find that the T shirt does not allow very much air through in which case it would cause your engine to run rich and reduce power.

I suppose I am suggesting that you put whatever material you want to make it out of up to your mouth and try to inhale and exhale through it. If it is difficult then you might want to try something a bit more "sheer" shall we say, which might also slip over it without a seam and which could also simply be tied in a knot on the end to seal it if need be. And with that, I think I have already said more than enough.

OMG Barn...I never knew.

[DohcBikes]

so using a bit of afro-engineeringAttachment 192498

I'm not familiar with this type of engineering. Can you explain what you mean by that?

Looks to me like hack work and no patience so I guess I'm confused.



Hopefully the rhetorical nature of this post is apparent, because I've nothing else to say about it.

[kawaboy-zx12r]

yeah, pretty much thats what it is... a hack job, but anyway Barnett, you are correct, the shirt with the k&n oil is too thick and making it run much too rich, any thing over 1/4 throttle it bogs out and cuts in and out. its true, i dont have much patience.... i just got it yesterday and i am doing what ever it takes to ride it NOW, new toys rock!

[kawaboy-zx12r]

and by the way i did let A LOT of pressure out of the front tire and it handles 1,879,746 times better now.

[kawaboy-zx12r]

i been thinking about switching to synthetic oil, i found this at orielys auto, do you think it would be good in t the ytm200? manual says use 10w40 but i also read that isnt important when using synthetic.... what do you think? http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...1984&ppt=C1941

[jb2wheels]

Nice looking Tri Moto.

The important thing is to use oil for motorcycles or ATVs with wet clutches. Brand does not matter. Synthetic or not almost does not matter (personal preference). Weight almost does not matter (follow what the manual says) but the wet clutch thing does matter.

Read the label. It should say "for wet clutches" in some sort of phrasing.
If I'm at the local auto parts store, I get the Valvoline ATV oil.
If I'm at the Honda shop, I get the Honda oil.
Etc.
The trikes don't care.

You can get a decent low pressure tire gauge online for about $15.
http://www.amazon.com/Slime-20096-Pr...ure+tire+gauge

[kawaboy-zx12r]

thanks, i already ordered a digital low pressure tire gauge last friday, it should be here in the next couple of days. i have been running regular (walmart super tech) 10w-40 in my street bikes forever without any problems, but i have been reading about synthetic oils lately, some guys say they are sooooo much better for engine life and others say it doesn't matter, i dont want to pay $10+ a quart compared to under $2 a quart if its just manufacturers trying to make a quick buck off my stupidity. my new air filter was suppose to be here yesterday (says usps tracking) but its not

[DohcBikes]

Walmart super tech 10w-40 is not designed for wet clutches.

[barnett468]

Walmart super tech 10w-40 is not designed for wet clutches.

But does it have any ZDDP in it?

[kawaboy-zx12r]

no, i was told years ago that walmart 10w40 was fine because its not "energy conserving" oil... which i believe means no friction modifiers.

[DohcBikes]

But does it have any ZDDP in it?

Hmm, whats that stuff?

Im sure everyone here would love it if you would please explain what it is, which oils contain it, how many ppm is ideal, what the manufacturers think about it, and why it is or is not beneficial to use oil with high levels of this mystery substance?

Any additional info would be appreciated, and also if you could maybe add a couple humorous anecdotes referring to any certain bike manufacturers off road vehicle engineering prowess in the early to mid 80's that would be wonderful.

[DohcBikes]

no, i was told years ago that walmart 10w40 was fine because its not "energy conserving" oil... which i believe means no friction modifiers.

Well if someone told you years ago then it must be true. I digress.

[kawaboy-zx12r]

yeah, and it has to say "energy conserving" on the bottle if conatians friction modifiers ..... someone also told me i need to spend $15 a quart on motorcycle oil, but that was a salesman at the motorcycle shop

[barnett468]

Hmm, whats that stuff?

...why it is or is not beneficial to use oil with high levels of this mystery substance?

ZDDP - It saves engines. It says so on the bottle.

and also if you could maybe add a couple humorous anecdotes referring to any certain bike manufacturers off road vehicle engineering prowess in the early to mid 80's that would be wonderful.

Ok...ZDDP, it's strong enough to protect the engines of multi AMA National Champion Doug Chandler’s and Wayne Rainey’s Kawasaki Super Bikes during the extreme rigors of 200 mph road racing. Kawasaki, makers of some of the fastest production bikes in the world.

anecdotes

Is this an "anecdote"?

[kawaboy-zx12r]

got the new air filter in the mail today, oiled and installed it, now she revs right up with no hesitation, the thing is a wheelie monster, i love it. i also went to walmart and picked up a gallon of rotilla 15w-40 for $13 bucks, i just put 2 1/2 quarts in my zx12r and have a quart and 1/2 for the tri moto.... just waiting on the oil filter now, should be here tomorrow... i wasn't sure if it still has the stock (cleanable) oil filter so decided to by a hiflo for $5. the oil thats in it now looks brand new and is at the top line of the dipstick, but i am still going to change it just so i know whats in there... and its a routine i do on all new (to me) bikes.