350X or Tri-Z for street use

[barnett468]

I don't think a street legal trike will stop the neighbor's calls to the PoPo. I hope I'm wrong. Good luck.

LOL, He does NOT want to stop the calls to the police just yet. He WANTS the people to call so he can show the nice policeperson that it is legally licensed for the street because that will piss them off. The police will then tell the complainers that it is street legal and unless the police catching him breaking some law there is not much they can do unless they have a noise level or nuisance riding law etc..

[Blown 331]

I know every state is different but in IL turn signals are not required on motorcycles. And also in IL if you dont already have a title you are SOL. Only the person who last had the bike titled in their name can apply for a lost title, not just any random person.

Turn signals not required in Louisiana, and also no sound limit.

http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/...spx?stateid=18

[DohcBikes]

Turn signals are not required hardly anywhere, but I still recommend them on the trike. The more legit it looks the better when you get pulled over by someone that is not going to be used to seeing a three wheeler. Trust me, the first couple times they will do their best to find something wrong.

I'm in AZ, and the first time I got stopped the guy was almost speechless. He was so focus on the three wheeler that he didn't see my mirror, my horn, my brake light, or my licence plate. When he got out of the car the look on his face was just bewilderment. He thought for sure I was out of my mind, and when he asked "do you even have any paperwork on this thing?" I could tell he also thought there was no damn way I did.

Pointed to the plate, handed my reg and ins. He starts off with "you know you gotta have amber turn signals and a brake light on that". Pointed to the brake light, showed him my hand signals. Now at this point he's getting embarrassed because he's realizing that he pulled me over for absolutely zero reason other than his inability to look past the fact that it was an ATC on the street.

So he proceeds to make laws up. Tells me I must have a headlight and a taillight. Not true because I haven't ridden in the dark for about five years now so I don't need them. Half hour after sunrise, half hour before sunset, no it was 3 p.m.

Tells me I need turn signals, I said I already showed you my turn signals. He seriously tried to convince me I was wrong, when the last thing I'm ever wrong about is my own bike. He actually had to go look up the statutes.

Short story long, I left that day without so much as a warning, he was completely embarrassed, but still, blinkers would have saved me some hassle that day.

And oh ya, Loud pipes save lives.

[C.J]

Oh yes. My main reason for wanting a supermoto trike is JUST to tick the neighbors off. They called the popo on me for riding in my own damn yard too!!!! I mean, I know it's a hassle for the police and they could be doing a lot better things with their time. But y'all, it's to the point where I'm on a first name basis with 5 deputies. They know my bikes almost as well as I do.

So,,,

18" rear tires? I figured they'd have more in a 20" and thought 20 because it would be easier to gear higher for the speed limits around here (45-55 is average). I'll look into it for sure. What got me thinking about this is some buddies from the QR Forum that live over seas have their zilla's street legal.

I'm still kinda confused on what to do with the turn signals. My head lights work pretty well and are fairly consistent from idle all the way to WOT so I think just the stator would be fine? Or like I said I'll look into adding a small battery to run the turn signals and brake light.

And if I remember correctly in Louisiana so long as we have a bill of sale and the machine doesn't come back stolen we can file for a lost title. The only bike I have a title to is my $650 TRX450ER, but that's because titles aren't a huge deal in Louisiana (when it comes to ATV's)

[DohcBikes]

Find a friendly DMV worker to help you with the title. I wouldn't even mention the street legal plan until you have the title in hand. It may cost you.

As far as tires, again d.o.t. 18s are much more available and affordable. Carlisle golf cart tires work great. Obviously this is opinion oriented, as I actually run non legal 20s on mine, simply because im tire distributor and I can change em whenever I want for cheap. But I still think the 18s are the undisputed long term street legal solution. Gearing is gearing, so sprockets are cheap. I suggest changing the Front sprocket first till you get it in he ballpark, as they are cheaper and easier to change.

Turn signals are definitely optional, just thought I'd mention my story. I still don't have signals on mine. Although I do have electric start and a battery. As far as the headlight goes, maybe a 3 fif hundy has a regulator already, I don't know about their electrical setup.

Make no mistake, these are all just suggestions. But they happen to come from someone that actually owns and rides street legal trikes.

[El Camexican]

There's a guy on super moto junkies that got his 2-stroke KTM street legal. Forget what cc it was though

As far as I know all the 300 and 380EXC KTM's are wired for plug and play street use. The ones some in Europe came with all the on road gear and the ones sold in the USA could be converted and plated in most States.

I hope pissing of the locals isn't your main goal as enough calls to the cops will get you at ticket even if you are legaly plated. Trust me on this. There are laws relating to noise, speed, reckless endangerment, etc. All you need to do is inspire the cops to look them up. If you have any doubts listen to this song.

[DohcBikes]

I'm totally with you on that El. Doing it as an offense is probably not a good idea. But this sounds like defense to me.

In this case, correct me if im wrong C.J., it sounds to me like the neighbors are regularly hassling the guy for having fun.

Life is too short to let the fun police determine your way of life.

[C.J]

Yea they will literally call on me for ANYTHING bike related. Like i said, I didnt even get my 450's battery charged enough to TRY and start it and they called on me. Its just one set of people too. The other guy that was calling them on me got a taste of his own medicine when he called them and then thought it would be funny to ride his brute down to my end of the neighborhood to watch them hassle me and ended up getting his bike towed.

But alright, 18's it is! I wasnt sure if there were enough sprocket options to get a good cruising gr with 18" rears but I'll do my research.

And yea, I'm going to have AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE legal on it because i KNOW i will get stopped

[fabiodriven]

Yeah so I can pretty much agree with just about everything that's been said already. Two strokes aren't the best on the road, but especially with less than two cylinders. The twins and up have a much better torque curve and are smoother. I can also attest to what was said about being pulled over. Every time I'm pulled over it's because the officer just didn't see the license plate, lights, blinkers, etc... Same rigamarole as stated, they try so hard to find something but they never do. If I can give you one piece of advise at all, if people start telling you what is illegal and what it isn't, I don't care how smart they are or how well you know them, ask them to show whatever it is they're telling you in black and white. I've yet to have anyone do it. They all think they KNOW (some guys on here) for a fact that you can't "blah blah blah" or it's required to have a "this and that". Tell them to show you the law.

The advantage my bike has, which would actually be a disadvantage off road, is the steering neck being higher than a factory built ATC. I didn't build it, I can't say whether or not the builder planned on that, but I will say it seems perfect to me. It allows for better high speed corner carving. Another very important thing you will find out if you don't already know, is the trike steers very much with its rear wheels. Traction in the rear is not your friend, and traction's good buddy "rotational mass" ain't exactly an upstanding citizen either. 18's are the way to go. I run mine at maximum pressure, 32 PSI. I won't delve into the whole riding style I've been developing but feel free to read in my thread about the XR.

350cc's will no longer seem fast if you get out on the big road but it will certainly be fun still. Be prepared for gawkers, people will stop what they're doing to watch you go by.

[Rider414]

350X you hillbilly!!!

[Blown 331]

350cc's will no longer seem fast if you get out on the big road but it will certainly be fun still.

Totally agree on that. I had license on an 82 XL500R and it felt real slow on the highway, especially interstate. Not that you'd probably do that on a 350X.

[jb2wheels]

350X with a loud as heck open megaphone exhaust that rattles windows at idle.

Add a nasty cam to it and everybody will hate it.

I know of a certain white and blue 350X with a cam and chrome DG pipe that is about the loudest thumper I've ever heard. Just at the right frequency, too.

[muthey]

I agree on the four stroke thought process for a lot of riding around town, if you look hard enough on e-bay you can find a led replacement tail and brake light for fairly cheap, and a horn setup as well make sure you have a mirror. and if you are using leds for turns tail and brake you will run about the same wattage's as your oem tail light, here is what a street legal Z looks like for you. I also had to file for what montana calls a bonded title. Requires a legal bill of sale , and not being stolen. I am running a 14t front sprocket a 41t rear from a banshee and 18" rear tires which puts me back around stock speeds but allows me to do over 45mph when needed. I can hear the change in sound of the motor at constant speeds over long lengths, which is why I recommend the four stroke I intend to street legal my 225dx next for that reason.

[hawaiirider]

Unless it came factory street legal its not going to pass at dmv, you MUST start with a street legal title, your best and easiest way to get a trike on the street is use any dual sport bike, try converting a 350x is a waste of money and time unless your out of the us. alaska you can ride anything on the street just buy a 10$ sticker for the year.

[fabiodriven]

^^^This^^^ is exactly what I'm talking about. A guy from a different part of the country telling you what the laws are in your own state.

I would like to see what law you're referencing in regards to that "can't" please, in black and white.