Any luger fans?

[plastikosmd]

One of my favorites is the artillery

Here is a quick read
http://www.lugerlp08.com/the%20artil...%20article.htm

I just think they are unique, a niche gun that the short barreled rifle of today.

Basically,
A luger, with a longer barrel, adjustable front and rear sight( with a rear sight that is a small ladder type sight (graduated out to 800m with even a slight offset to compensate for the spin imparted to the bullet!), a cool holster, cleaning rod/takedown/sight tool and a stock that easily mounts and is stored as part of the kit. Then drum magazine for trench warfare/ storm troopers etc. even used in aerial fights, shooting plane engines!

Shooting 9 mm out to. 800? Gotta be minute of barn accuracy!

For me, the Swiss Army knife solution - weapon system but of ww1.

This is my shooter, year 1917, 32 round drum mag installed. The rest of my aftermarket/ non original leather/ stock etc not shown. It also has aftermarket accoutrements ( stock/ holster etc.) - fine for shooting. Otherwise a # match gun minus magazine. The way these work, the serial # is on nearly every part. ( and there are a lot) of the gun. Sights, grips, mags, barrel, frame, levers, catches, EVERYTHING! So, u don't want to break anything as a 1$ part will cost u 1000's$ in value. Anyway my 'shooter'


This is my baby, a 1915, all match #, stock etc. drum, 1 gen, appropriate for year.





Not mine, this is what they look like assembled ( courtesy of google)

[Chopsaw]

Where in the hell did you find that ? Complete to boot . Battle field bring back ? Passed down to you ? I keep thinkin broom handle , but thats different ?
1915 / 1917 the tool year ? Maybe used in WWll ? I like anything world war 2 . I have the long rifles covered , but no hand guns . I enjoyed seeing it thx ,,,

Chop

[plastikosmd]

No they are both ww1 guns. 1915 and 1917 date of manufacture.they are both military by proof marks. Probably taken from a dead or surrendered German.
Finding isn't too hard, all match and set is a bit harder. They are on various auction sites. Much different than broomhandle. The broom handle or c96 lost out to the luger in 1907/1908 or something for the German military contract for this the of weapon.

[Lord Letto 20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_C96


There's the Type 17 Mauser, a Chinese Copy that uses 45. ACP Rounds (Shanxi Type 17) in Metal Gear solid 3 used by EVA

[plastikosmd]

^ nice ' red nine'
Bit more rare than the standard c96.
I am more of a luger guy, I prefer the grip angle on the luger. If I run across a Mauser again maybe....

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Interesting piece, interesting little tid bit of history too.

Yeah, I think much like the super long range sight graduations on the old bolt action military rifles of the time, the expectation of accuracy at 800m with a 9mm round was maybe you might hit an enemy or 2 out of a mass of troops at that distance. I have not read this in black and white myself personally, but I theorize that the optimistic markings on the rear apertures of shoulder fired weaponry of those days was more of a gimmick than anything, maybe even an attempt to instill a smidgen more confidence in the average grunt on the field. More of a play on the mind than a statement of reality. I once owned an old 8mm Steyr carbine with markings on the rear sight that topped out at 1200m if I recall... Might be practical for lobbing rounds at entire formations, but you sure aren't pulling any headshots with that equipment! LOL!

[plastikosmd]

^ agree about the 'hopeful intent' of the range (800 for 9mm)
At least on the luger, one can assume testing was done as the sight is progressively offset to account for 9mm spin drift. Different than most. Many assume their sight is bent (as u raise it, it moves to one side along with up.)

[RIDE-RED 250r]

The Germans were VERY good at design and production of weaponry from hand/shoulder fired all the way to heavy artillery...

[plastikosmd]

Agree, they did over engineer! I need to show some pics of the parts, all with tiny little numbers

[RIDE-RED 250r]

I recall reading or hearing on a WWII documentary that some of the Nazi artillery pieces were engineered to such power levels and precision that the projectiles were to be fired in specific numerical order to account for the little bit of wear to the gun barrel and chamber after the firing of each round. Fire one out of sequence and bad things would happen....

[plastikosmd]

Wow and very cool

[Poco Loco]

Interesting, great war relic. I would think to get a 9mm to go 800m you would have to point it up about 30 degrees and lob it in. 9mm is a slo round with not much performance in the muzzle speed/FPS. Good in real close quarters. It wont go through to many layers of jackets/shirts/ leather ect. Thats why the .45 cal auto was developed and put into service by Colt in 1911. The .45 is like a slow moving freight train hitting you.