Tony Stewart...........................

[tripledog]

Kind of ironic that Stewart's nickname is "smoke".

[Mosh]

This....employee was an avid pot smoker. We can't say for sure he was stoned on the job at this time but he openly admitted to regular use of pot.

This is the amongst a miriad of other issues such as running sheet metal screws thru gas tanks and other general behavior that judgement was impaired.

He is now no longer employed along with being Injured from this mishap.
In case you want to know this guy had a screw jack so hard up the bottom of the engine during a motor mount replacement he actually made this car fall off a drive on rack sideways nearly smashing another employee as well as himself.
I am no saint and have done my fair share of extra curricular activities in my day but smoking dope has no business around 2 ton equipment or gasoline powered missiles running down a hi way or anywhere else you can effect someone else's safety but your own.
Stick that in your pipes and smoke it...

[fabiodriven]

There are plenty of people who are just stupid, with or without Marijuana. I can assure you that Marijuana is not a hallucinogen and will not put you in an alternate reality. If the guy was stupid enough to do that, he's just that stupid. The idea that you're suggesting Marijuana made him that stupid and the fact that you honestly believe that is laughable. Now prescription pills on the other hand, I've personally watched turn some of the smartest people I've ever met into literal babbling mongoloids.

Once again someone heard from who doesn't know the first thing about this subject. You don't smoke pot and forget your chosen trade. That nitwit either didn't know his trade in the first place or was on something else.

[DohcBikes]

I agree with Mosh. This is coming from somebody that has smoked every single day for 18 years. I use zero prescriptions as they are the devil in disguise.

My mechanic skills suffer greatly when i'm high. My hands and fingers don't always do what I ask them to do, and there have been times that I've almost forgotten important things when working on my own engines. Without question all as a direct result of marijuana use. There are plenty of people that can't function properly after smoking, or their judgement is impaired.

This is why I keep my job and my recreation away from each other.

Something else I'd like to add... With the legality on the rise along with the THC content in these new strains, I'm seeing many more people affected by chronic use. The new "medical grade" or kind bud or whatever you wanna call it, is too powerful for this guy. The effects don't seem to dissipate nearly as fast either, and it just gets you more and more stoned as the day goes on. Being who he was, I bet Kevin had access to some seriously high potency.

[6speedthumper]

I feel that I can voice my opinion on this, based on my personal experiences as well. I've smoked pot. Hell, I still burn from time to time. Always in the late evening hours when I'm just unwinding, or when I need to fall asleep. In my experience, pot does not make you do totally retarded things. I don't speed when I've smoked, I don't get argumentive, confrontational, etc. Like Fabio said, I drive slower and more cautiously. There have been plenty of times when I have wrenched while stoned, and never have I ever screwed up ANYTHING. I also agree with Fabio on the prescription drug front. Has anyone even been watching the commercials on TV? I don't watch much tv at all, but, those drug commercials make it loud and clear that if you take drug X the side affects are 20x worse then the actual ailment they are said to combat.

Now, I know that pot affects different people differently. But really, that is not much different then the affects of alcohol on the same person(s). Lets face it, some people can have 2 or 3 beers and drive excellent. Then there are the folks that have 1 beer and can't start the damn car. Some people can drink a 6 pack and they are just as good natured and fun to be with as they are when they are sober. Then there are the people that drink the same amount, or less, and are total a-holes that want to start fights or do troublesome things. Of all the "stoner" friends I have, none of them have ever damaged property of any kind, none have driven wrecklessly, none have started or been involved in fights while high, all are just chill and relaxed about life.

I'll agree with Fabio once again that pot does help many people to do the day to day BS. It has also shown to help people to focus that much more intensely on the task at hand. But, there is the other side of the coin where a person doesn't want to do anything, which I have found that if taking a hit and immediately getting busy helps to combat couch potatoism (I prefer not to do a damn thing if I just take a hit or two and stay sitting down).

Who here has watched Worlds Wildest Police chases? Don't you just love when John Brunell says during a high speed pursuit that the suspect is "high on Marijuana". I call BULLSH!T on that. That felon is probably tripping on some much more potent, man made drugs, or has a very large reason for evading Police. The Marijuana alone is not "making him" run from law enforcement (okay maybe if he has a kilo of it in the backseat, lol)

It's just something that is going to continue to get a bad rep because there are those that are against ALL drugs that are not prescription, and those that do not know enough about it, or have not partaken. The world would probably be a better place if all these ego maniac world "leaders" and law makers would pace around the peace pipe.

[6speedthumper]

I agree with Mosh. This is coming from somebody that has smoked every single day for 18 years. I use zero prescriptions as they are the devil in disguise.

My mechanic skills suffer greatly when i'm high. My hands and fingers don't always do what I ask them to do, and there have been times that I've almost forgotten important things when working on my own engines. Without question all as a direct result of marijuana use. There are plenty of people that can't function properly after smoking, or their judgement is impaired.

This is why I keep my job and my recreation away from each other.

Something else I'd like to add... With the legality on the rise along with the THC content in these new strains, I'm seeing many more people affected by chronic use. The new "medical grade" or kind bud or whatever you wanna call it, is too powerful for this guy. The effects don't seem to dissipate nearly as fast either, and it just gets you more and more stoned as the day goes on. Being who he was, I bet Kevin had access to some seriously high potency.

That is true, he probably could get some REALLY good stuff! Stuff that I probably couldn't afford at all. Then there is the synthetic Marijuana that's really screwing with people. That along with the THC content like you said, is only further making pot worse then what it has actually been.

[Mosh]

There are plenty of people who are just stupid, with or without Marijuana. I can assure you that Marijuana is not a hallucinogen and will not put you in an alternate reality. If the guy was stupid enough to do that, he's just that stupid. The idea that you're suggesting Marijuana made him that stupid and the fact that you honestly believe that is laughable. Now prescription pills on the other hand, I've personally watched turn some of the smartest people I've ever met into literal babbling mongoloids.

Once again someone heard from who doesn't know the first thing about this subject. You don't smoke pot and forget your chosen trade. That nitwit either didn't know his trade in the first place or was on something else.

I also know that being under the influence of it makes a person narrow minded or one tracked in thinking so to speak.

The idea anybody is suggesting to operate anything motorized under the influence of ANYTHING drug wise, pills booze, pot or even road head is going to yeild disasterous consequences...Time and chance happens to everyone, and for the advocates, if someone stoned immaculate were to cause and accident and take out a loved one, you would think differently.

I am not going to argue my thoughts on the matter/ further than this. I have been in shops for over 20 years and worked with MANY dudes that go blow a joint at lunch and seen them run racks through gas tanks, or leave wheels loose, by 3pm. It affects people.
Do i have a problem with pot use..Not really. I don't care what a guy does on his time as long as it does not directly effect me or my family's safety or someone else I am responsible for.

[El Camexican]

What was this thread about again? Oh yea, a guy getting killed on a race track.

I knew a guy that died on a race track. He put a patch on the tube of the rear sick on his 7 second dragster to finish the weekend. Tube let go in the traps and his head was found a good ways off inside his helmet after the car climbed the post mounted guard rail. The NHRA quietly declined the $250,000 insurance payout to his family due to the dope in his system.

He didn't hurt anyone aside from himself and his family that day, but had he been in the same condition that made him think that patch would hold on a tire at 180mph in a dragster slick while he was forgetting to say tighten the lug nuts on his wife's car he could have harmed a bunch of innocents.

I'm all for legalizing pot for medical and recreational use, but I don't want school bus drivers, pilots and armed cops wandering about high. Hell I don't even want the drive thru guy at Rotten Ronnie's blasted, that guy f***s up my orders when he's straight!

Dope is going to have to fall under the same type of rules as booze. None on the job, none 8 hours before operating equipment, driving or racing, etc. I don't know how it can be done, but it has to be.

[6speedthumper]

I agree with ya there, El. Someone wants to smoke up on their time, that's cool. But, during business hours... Which is why when and if I toke I do it late in the evening, after I have gotten done all that I needed to, or wanted to. That, and I don't want my luck to run out if I were to do it during the day, everyday.

[fabiodriven]

Mosh you're friggin high.

Firstly you're corresponding with the most open minded person you will someday meet. Secondly, I've seen both sides of the coin, you've seen only one.

[Mosh]

Mosh you're friggin high.

Firstly you're corresponding with the most open minded person you will someday meet. Secondly, I've seen both sides of the coin, you've seen only one.

You are implying I am smoking pot...which I am not and don't appreciate.
Second you are calling me a liar which I am not.
Are you honestly trying to discredit facts which I have presented?

How is that being open minded on your behalf...

I get it...You like to smoke dope and ride your motorcycle and trikes...and chop wood with chainsaws...you like to post how you can overcome the odds of being chemically influenced and over come the odds of operating said machinery..
Great.. its a free country. Now go find a thread about insurance companies banning trikes...
Ask why would they do such a thing....


Glamy...your a fuggin moron...I think anyone with half an even stoned brain can see what a impotent poser you are...
Your opinions and posts are for ...now go ask your mommy for some more money so you can sit in her basement for another 45 years..

[6speedthumper]

I think Fabio's comment about you being high, Mosh, is out of sarcasm. And, that you are seeing things from the "sober side" of things.

Honestly, both sides have their reasons for their opinions, and facts, and most are justifiable. Which is why I liked some of what you had to say. However, my stance on the subject is that pot is not nearly as bad as many make it out to be. If it's just straight, all natural pot, I dig it. This new synthetic sh!t and anything laced with other drugs (real, man made, drugs) is not cool in my book.

Everyone reacts to it differently, just like alcohol, just like prescription drugs. I can tell you that Codine(?) for me is a major downer (took it for a wisdom tooth removal, not recreation) others it's an upper. Some people get paranoid on Marijuana, I get super chill and most times fall right to sleep.