Rolling coal?

[tripledog]

Thanks a lot guys! You have actually got me wanting a diesel now. If used responsibly, they seem to be the ultimate power plant. I don't need anything too big, just something to push large quantities of snow. It will likely never leave my property, except for turning it around in the road. I miss the creature comforts that a truck provides over those of a tractor.

[Dirtcrasher]

^ Fabio's truck 7.3 pulls with tons of torque.

His truck is the most fun I have ever had as a passenger.

STRONG MOTOR!!

[El Camexican]

^ Fabio's truck 7.3 pulls with tons of torque. His truck is the most fun I have ever had as a passenger.

Wish I were there to cup your yam bag Steve! You're in my thoughts buddy

I can see why that might be...

[timex69]

I've got to rant a bit here because the whole rolling coal thing gets on my nerves. Too many kids breaking themselves financially to drive around in a lifted up diesel to haul twelve packs and air. If you push your truck by towing loads that a gasser just cannot do weekly and make your income VIA your truck by all means purchase a diesel and the key to a good working diesel is maintainence. Dont purchase a 50k truck and skimp on "expensive oil changes" etc, the second you notice something wrong get it looked at.

If you purchase a moderately large 5th wheel/flat deck/construction trailer that hardly leaves your state or province and only use it 3 to 5 times per year purchase a large gasser, suck it up get the poor fuel economy and since you did not shell out as much to purchase the diesel engine as well as maintain it your way futher ahead. Plus no egr deletes, urea, plugging it in, finding quality diesel fuel (country refuelling stations that dont sell large volumes of diesel tend to have water and impurities) and finding a qualified tech to work on your truck, which is HUGE.

BTW I realize gassers have problems too however in nearly every instance they are cheaper to repair. I also am speaking strictly from a fiancial stand point. If you want a diesel by all means buy a diesel if you want HUGE power gains VIA a tuner and other bolt ons diesel is the way to go. Just dont purchase one to tow your small camper 80 miles twice a year and get groceries and run around with your kids the rest of the time and try and convince me you had to have diesel for your towing needs. Get what makes you happy.

I personally have a hemi and have pushed it to the limits towing, I cant pull steep grades at 70 MPH maintaining 15 MPG however I dont mind buying more fuel, climibing grades slower and keeping my truck payments smaller.

[sanchez]

The naturally asperated fords almost can,t help but blow black above 6000' elevation in stock trim. That's why they got turbos now. At lower elevation u feel the motor pull less and less as the smoke gets thicker. I was always told black (over fueled) exhaust pulls extra heat away from the cylinder reducing power output. So in a land of big trucks and no scents, the blacker the plume the dumber the driver.
PS my ford idi7.3 has a turbo and the stock pump won't over fuel. No smoke, at least not from my truck.

[fabiodriven]

I've got to rant a bit here because the whole rolling coal thing gets on my nerves. Too many kids breaking themselves financially to drive around in a lifted up diesel to haul twelve packs and air. If you push your truck by towing loads that a gasser just cannot do weekly and make your income VIA your truck by all means purchase a diesel and the key to a good working diesel is maintainence. Dont purchase a 50k truck and skimp on "expensive oil changes" etc, the second you notice something wrong get it looked at.

If you purchase a moderately large 5th wheel/flat deck/construction trailer that hardly leaves your state or province and only use it 3 to 5 times per year purchase a large gasser, suck it up get the poor fuel economy and since you did not shell out as much to purchase the diesel engine as well as maintain it your way futher ahead. Plus no egr deletes, urea, plugging it in, finding quality diesel fuel (country refuelling stations that dont sell large volumes of diesel tend to have water and impurities) and finding a qualified tech to work on your truck, which is HUGE.

BTW I realize gassers have problems too however in nearly every instance they are cheaper to repair. I also am speaking strictly from a fiancial stand point. If you want a diesel by all means buy a diesel if you want HUGE power gains VIA a tuner and other bolt ons diesel is the way to go. Just dont purchase one to tow your small camper 80 miles twice a year and get groceries and run around with your kids the rest of the time and try and convince me you had to have diesel for your towing needs. Get what makes you happy.

I personally have a hemi and have pushed it to the limits towing, I cant pull steep grades at 70 MPH maintaining 15 MPG however I dont mind buying more fuel, climibing grades slower and keeping my truck payments smaller.

OK then, everyone now base what you want to drive on what some guy on the internet tells you to drive, apparently because he says so? Thank you almighty internet guy, for making such a big decision for all the rest of us. Your endless wisdom and perception of thousands of people's individual situations is an unrivaled resource that should forever be cherished.

Now back to reality. Many of these kids hauling "12 packs and air" happen to live in America, where it's their choice as to what they drive, not random internet person's. Maybe they think you should grow a set and buy a real truck, you never know? You don't hear anyone saying that here though, do you? ;-)

The big diesel trucks are the hot rods of our times, at least in my area. If someone wants to funnel their time and resources into their big, flashy truck in America that's their decision. Haters gonna hate.

[timex69]

OK then, everyone now base what you want to drive on what some guy on the internet tells you to drive, apparently because he says so? Thank you almighty internet guy, for making such a big decision for all the rest of us. Your endless wisdom and perception of thousands of people's individual situations is an unrivaled resource that should forever be cherished.

Now back to reality. Many of these kids hauling "12 packs and air" happen to live in America, where it's their choice as to what they drive, not random internet person's. Maybe they think you should grow a set and buy a real truck, you never know? You don't hear anyone saying that here though, do you? ;-)

The big diesel trucks are the hot rods of our times, at least in my area. If someone wants to funnel their time and resources into their big, flashy truck in America that's their decision. Haters gonna hate.

I think I may have touched a nerve. I was ranting on my stand point of diesels and here you go insulting my opinion on the matter. This thread is posted in the open forum and is for opinions of people rolling coal and kids driving around in trucks that don't suit their needs was brought up. I stated that you can drive what you want if it makes you happy just quit trying to justify it as a need. That is why I stated what I drive and how it does what I need but apparently I should have a diesel because its not enough according to "others that drive diesels in america". I feel that funneling all your resources into a depreciating vehicle is a poor choice and I will not stray from that stance if others feel differently then by all means buy what you want. Perhaps you can elaborate on why "others" feel I need a bigger truck. I'm curious to know . Also enough with the "in america we buy what we want" you think I frogot where most people on here are from. You'd be surprised but in Canada we buy what we want too and when something seems excessive people talk about it. So come on tell me why I need a bigger truck

[6speedthumper]

The big diesel trucks are the hot rods of our times, at least in my area. If someone wants to funnel their time and resources into their big, flashy truck in America that's their decision. Haters gonna hate.

That they are. Although I prefer gassers, as you know, I get a real kick out of seeing how far a diesel can be taken, and how it responds to performance gains. It does all that while still being streetable and generally reliable. I say generally because some guys put their trucks through some real torture, lol. If you want to break something, you will find it's weakness.

Fabio, you sound pretty diesel savvy. Are there any delete kits for that exhaust fuel, is it? I figured some company would make a killing offering a delete kit for that!

I honestly think that if I were to own a diesel, I'd buy an old CUCV Military truck with the 6.2L. Or, a late model 2500/3500 with the 6.2L (serpentine belt). From all that I have read, the late models were actually pretty durable. Their main problems being (from memory mind you) possibility of heads cracking, and crankshaft failure IF the harmonic balancer crapped out. Don't know exactly how true that is though. Main reason why I'd go for one of these is because they are all mechanical. If there is ever an EMP strike, it'd still run. Would have to store a few electrical items in an EMP proof box so she'd crank. I had also read a build that a diesel mag did on one using the BANKS Sidewinder turbo kit. Pretty impressive power gains considering the engine.

[Scootertrash]

Roll coal? PPfffffftt!!



I roll





Roll down my window and cut a big fart for them there tailgaters! Iffin ya get any "coal" is cuz my sphincter slipped.

[tripledog]

Oh, yeah, the infamous trouser sneeze gets 'em every time!

[El Camexican]

So come on tell me why I need a bigger truck

I don't know about you, but I need a big truck because unlike Glamy I'm to embarrassed to buy an enlargement pump.

[tripledog]

Wow, that's harsh! Funny as he!!, but harsh.

[fabiodriven]

So come on tell me why I need a bigger truck

I will. But since you know what kind of truck everyone else needs, why don't you tell me why I need a smaller one? I'll tell you why I don't.

Just dont purchase one to tow your small camper 80 miles twice a year and get groceries and run around with your kids the rest of the time and try and convince me you had to have diesel for your towing needs.

Why not purchase a diesel? I will say this right up front; My one ton truck, and most diesels, get better fuel mileage than your truck, which is smaller. So let us examine this- Your truck is smaller, can't pull as much, and gets worse fuel mileage, and you're going to sit there and tell me what truck I should buy? What gives you the right to tell me that I should buy a smaller truck, that is worse on fuel, and can't pull as much? Because you own a gas truck? And what sense does that make? So I should get a gas truck as well? My truck is 15 years old and has over 235k on it, that's miles not kilobites or whatever, and it's just getting started. I've done tires, brakes, fuel filters, oil changes, a tie rod end, a fuel pump, and some odds and ends. I've poured my heart and soul into my truck to make it my own and it is my principle mode of transportation. I drive it to work every day and sometimes I drive it to the store just to get a pack of smokes, and I do all of that while getting better fuel mileage than you do, and you're going to tell me I need a smaller truck. OK pal.



This is my truck. It only sees this configuration with both the camper and trailer once or maybe twice a year. The one time for certain every year is for Trikefest. Trikefest is what the rest of my year hinges on. Not Christmas, not Groundhog Day, or tax season, Trikefest. Trikefest is 16-20 hours from me and in the trim you see we're almost 17k lbs, more than that in 2013. We were almost 18k that year. My camper is old and it weighs about 3500 lbs. It's much too heavy for a 3/4 ton truck and even too heavy for a single wheel one ton. In 2012 the camper was on the truck for almost months at a time, it went out literally every single weekend that year. Myself and my girlfriend enjoy the camper thoroughly. It is because of my big, heavy, diesel, one ton, dually truck, that camper gets anywhere at all. Not only does it get the camper there, it hauls it up hills at a safe highway speed and accelerates up on ramps allowing me to merge into traffic, again at safe speeds. My camper would squash a half ton truck like a bug. With just the camper and no trailer, it probably gets about the fuel mileage your truck does while empty. So what should I do? Buy a half ton gas job? Because internet dude says so? The camper only went to Trikefest and New York (MIK6's) last summer and most of the time other than that it was only hauling my arse (empty), but it still got better mileage than your truck while it was empty. My truck is a 2wd six speed manual shift. Because of this it doesn't have a low range that would be found in the transfer case in a 4wd truck. Three years ago I happened upon a tractor trailer stuck up to the front axle (literally) on the side of the road. Because I was able to pull him from the pavement, and because I had my old camper in the back at the time, I was able to lug him out. I was surprised but my father and the truck driver were dumbfounded. That was the hardest I ever worked that truck, and I am completely confident a gas job, even in the same exact chassis, would not have pulled him out. Possibly with a low range transfer case, but my truck doesn't have that. There is no way of ever knowing, but I don't think it would have happened. I have a fair amount of tools in my toolboxes and I use them regularly. I used them today at work actually. I am a truck driver by trade of almost 15 years and I drive trucks that approach 120,000 lbs at times (that's lbs, not kiloballs or whatever), so this is an appropriate, and smaller, vehicle for me. And it still gets better fuel mileage than your truck.



This is an ex-coworker's truck. It's got a Cummins 5.9 diesel in it. Nice truck eh? I don't like GM products, but I'd certainly drive that. I bet a lot of people here would. If you pay attention to details, you'll notice that the rear end has even been narrowed to fit under the bed without having to have "hips". Very clean, nice truck. And it gets better fuel mileage than yours.



Here are a couple of my buddy's trucks in my driveway. The Dodge is a local friend who tows his mud truck all over New England and also hauls a trailer with wood sometimes. 90% of the time he goes by my house, he's just going to grab the kids at school or going to get a coffee. It's a big, nice truck, and it gets better fuel mileage than yours.

The utility truck is my roommate's. It's got a 6.0 in it which I'm not a huge fan of. He's had to do a ton of work to it over the years but that's OK. He's a diesel mechanic and we've both learned a lot along the way (like don't buy a 6.0). As it sits, that truck weighs in at about 11k lbs. He has all of his tools in it. It makes a TON of power and it is fast. That 11k truck will pass your truck and just keep going, I promise. About a month ago he hauled a generator that weighed over 15 thousand lbs, while still having his truck full of his tools and at 11k. I never said he was smart. Although illegal, you would never have done that with a gas truck, ever. His truck at 11k probably gets similar, but possibly better, fuel mileage than yours.

But what about those of us who don't use our diesel trucks to their potential? What about those who just drive around hauling 12 packs and air? Well, those guys have trucks that run for half a million miles with very little maintenance and they get better fuel mileage than your truck.

So tell me again why anyone should drive a gas job over a diesel pickup?

[DohcBikes]

Hell yes fabiodriven, hell yes. Keep on Truckin'

My bud Zach and I have been looking for a big body Ford Ltd to put a Turbo Powerstroke into. Got the motor and trans already

[fabiodriven]

This is Billy "Hoodstack" from the next town over. Nice kid. I took this pic on Thanksgiving of last year at the annual "Turkey Day Burnouts". It takes place really early in the morning. Now to each their own, you all have your own personal preferences, but having double the power of a tractor trailer in a pickup that belches flames in the air and absolutely sa-molders the tires sounds like a really good time to me. There were sports cars and trucks of every make and model you could possibly think of that day, but he took the show. Now I completely understand if that kind of thing isn't up your alley, I think there may be a flea market nearby or something, but I'll ride my way on to the next place with a smile on my face and flames shooting in the air hauling heavy thank you very much sir.