bboyrise investing $85K to remake the Dunlop Kt577 tire

[honda200x1987]

They used the original Dunlop Molds? I can care less that it's not Dunlop Branded , I like the original tread patern... just my opinion. http://www.trx250r.net/forum/wheels-...ves-again.html. https://m.facebook.com/Cheetahtires/...pe=1&source=46

[greenhuman]

This is not true for so many reasons. Patents and copyrights to begin with. You sure do make it sound easy though.

Why is this not true? The Chinamen don't care about patents etc. I have been dealing with them for years. There is one particular company for example who do nothing but accept samples and find a factory to produce the item for the best price and quality. Also, anything can be rebadged with a custom logo for a few cents per item. I think people would be very surprised where their ATV accessories come from.

[Marty]

if it is easy can someone have them remake ohtsu tires please

[Poco Loco]

My friend has a business that sells chinese tractors. The 1st thing that fails on these tractors is all the rubber parts. Chinese rubber is crap. Is this why they went from a 2 ply to a 4 ply? Why 4 plys if your remaking a great tire? Hmmm. Are these things gonna check from a bit of sunlight hitting them? Ever go in Harbor Freight where everything is from china and go to where the tires are and smell the foul smell they have? It smells like fermaldehyde. We'll just have to see who steps up and buys these strange tires....

[Billy Golightly]

This is not true for so many reasons. Patents and copyrights to begin with. You sure do make it sound easy though.

The Chinese care nothing about patents and copyrights. It really is that easy to get something made. Selling it and not getting the sued out of you is another thing, but making them isn't a problem. If you got the money, the chicoms will knock it off for ya no problemo.

[DohcBikes]

Why is this not true? The Chinamen don't care about patents etc. I have been dealing with them for years. There is one particular company for example who do nothing but accept samples and find a factory to produce the item for the best price and quality. Also, anything can be rebadged with a custom logo for a few cents per item. I think people would be very surprised where their ATV accessories come from.

Proof please. Otherwise you're just making b.s. claims. Marty hit the nail on the head. If it were so cheap and easy it would be happening. You're just talking.

Billy, real business men factor risk BEFORE reward. Lawsuits aren't cheap OR easy. The claim was that he can get whatever tire he wants cheap and easy. This is a production thread. I guess I connected some dots that no one wants connected. Without numbers, this claim is VERY misleading. I don't like misleading info when it comes to business. As some have learned.

Numbers please.....

[Billy Golightly]

Proof please. Otherwise you're just making b.s. claims. Marty hit the nail on the head. If it were so cheap and easy it would be happening. You're just talking.

Billy, real business men factor risk BEFORE reward. Lawsuits aren't cheap OR easy. The claim was that he can get whatever tire he wants cheap and easy. This is a production thread. I guess I connected some dots that no one wants connected. Without numbers, this claim is VERY misleading. I don't like misleading info when it comes to business. As some have learned.

Numbers please.....

www.alibaba.com is all you need to spend a few minutes looking at, but whatever man - I've not ever seen anyone engage you in conversation give an answer adequate for you.

[greenhuman]

I have sold over 8,000 tyres over here which are exactly the same as the Maxxis Razr 2's so I don't have to "prove " anything to you. And that's only one item. The company I deal with WILL find a factory in China, Taiwan, Korea or wherever to remake any item for an ATV you care to think of. They charge a flat 15% fee on the final sale price and they do all the legwork as to sending out the sample to various factories, inspections, freight forwarding etc.

I'm not going to get into a pissing competition with you over this as trying to have a sensible discussion with someone like you is impossible as I have noticed with most of your posts.
Stick to changing plugs or whatever hillbillies do and try to say something positive for a change.

[Marty]

Green human I am not a hillbilly, or change spark plugs. But if you have the contacts can you get someone over there to please remake me 2 pairs of ohtsu 701 rear tires please. When last sold in 2006 they sold for $89 so 15% markup I am cool with. So please let me know thanks

[Mosh]

There was talk about the front tire some years ago on this forum.
Like I said in that thread..We talked to Dunlop face to face. They told us the molds had been sold sometime back before 2008. We got no positive answer where but China was pretty much the consensus. Nobody had this mold remade IMO. Someone ground out the Dunlop badge and put in whatever name. The front tire will be a stretch since it is 11 inch fits virtually nothing in the CHINESE eyes.

As far as these..I wonder if they will hit ebay where there is an extra layer of protection for buyers.
So far facebook pages created 3 days ago and craigslist posts to advertise so a large investment is confusing and suspicious all at the same time with some questionable impersonation problems.
I dont think people realize that hardcore trikers can sniff out bullshit far quicker than any other group as we have been chasing the unicorns far longer than most.

[DohcBikes]

I'm not going to get into a pissing competition with you over this as trying to have a sensible discussion with someone like you is impossible as I have noticed with most of your posts.
Stick to changing plugs or whatever hillbillies do and try to say something positive for a change.

Name calling, very interesting way to make a point. Also an interesting way to have a sensible conversation. I'm not a hillbilly I'm a redneck, let's get it straight now. I'm sure the hillbillies would be offended to hear that you have included me in their ranks.

Now Hear This! Contact member green human for ANY tire you want, cheap and easy.

Bring on the Ohtsus big dog.

[Billy Golightly]

Name calling, very interesting way to make a point. Also an interesting way to have a sensible conversation. I'm not a hillbilly I'm a redneck, let's get it straight now. I'm sure the hillbillies would be offended to hear that you have included me in their ranks.

Now Hear This! Contact member green human for ANY tire you want, cheap and easy.

Bring on the Ohtsus big dog.

Dude - you opened that door with your condescending assed response about this to begin with.

The original intent was the "Possibility" of making the tires, not the feasibility, or economic benefit of it. Mike at Vintage said he has had the opportunity to remake the US90 balloon tires on 2 different occasions but has chosen not to because the $$$ didn't make sense to him. Not because it wasn't possible. Are you calling him a liar also? greenhuman is right - probably 95% of your "name brand" aftermarket trinkets are manufactured by the chicoms. If you want to see some really funny stuff, look up carbon fiber motorcycle mufflers on alibaba and you'll find EXACT copies of the big names from FMF, Pro-circuit, and a few others down to the machining marks in their billet mounts. All your brake pads, sprockets, wearable items repackaged and sold as Moose, EBC, etc. - Chicoms.

Get over yourself and get real.

[DohcBikes]

I'm as real as it gets and I'll never get over myself so I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

This guy says we can have any disco'd tire we want. Cheap and easy. Bullshlt.

And it's ME that needs to get real. LOL. Ok.

[redsox]

DOHC, i'm on your side buddy, about the credibility of this bboyrise guy being shady shady. But you're wrong about the chinese and patients bud. no big deal, but you're mistaken. Have you ever walked down the street in NYC? You know those $10 nike jordans that the guy has on the blanket?? Not Legit. China. Also, just to comment on chinese rubber, i just bought a pack of bungees from harbor freight. I couldn't believe how cheap they were and i figured "a bungee is a bungee, more or less" Well, wow was i wrong. The rubber is not real rubber. Its bizarre. Also, they have that weird smell. worthless. But, i think i paid $2.99 for a 10 pack. Live and learn. Thanks for reading. You guys can continue to argue. (Not gonna change the fact he used someone else's trike in the pic)

[El Camexican]

Proof please. Otherwise you're just making b.s. claims. Marty hit the nail on the head. If it were so cheap and easy it would be happening. You're just talking.

Billy, real business men factor risk BEFORE reward. Lawsuits aren't cheap OR easy. The claim was that he can get whatever tire he wants cheap and easy. This is a production thread. I guess I connected some dots that no one wants connected. Without numbers, this claim is VERY misleading. I don't like misleading info when it comes to business. As some have learned.

Numbers please.....

I buy globally for a living. Many (not all) Chinese are unscrupulous as are some Mexicans, Canadians and Americans.

I have found my client's patented products on the display shelf of a potential supplier that was ready to sell them to whoever wanted with the name changed. I have also been offered "Made in the USA" decals with items I buy. And rubber quality??? Yea, what you see in the USA is crap. It comes down to what people want to pay, most US buyer want cheap, cheap cheap. The good stuff costs the same over there as it does in the USA, so no one buys it for export, but Chinese cars & trucks come with good tires when you buy them there. The exporters look at it as "sell it cheap today and let the sucker spend the money to make it right later on". The Chinese can make ANYTHING, including spaceships, but aside from labor (which is now substantially higher than Mexico) most of what goes into a product cost the same as the USA.