Quantum physics

[atc007]

Just had a service guy here for alarms. Super polite great guy to speak too. He was telling me of the curse of "little " The Porsche Spyder that killed James Dean,, Aftr his tale, I immediately thought of this tread...Which I have yet to read unfortunately.. WILL someday.. The conversation evolved from him spotting a almost New Suzuki LT 250R out for fresh air today. He said his buddy raced Zillas.. Somehow thinking he had talked over me lol... Anyhow, I told him I had new and old of them and they were cool. And I had owned one that had killed not one,but two men. I very reluctantly took it on trade and very ,very reluctantly sold it after a LONG disclosure to the buyer how I thought it should be burnt... Not kidding. Anyhow, he said the car had killed men before Dean owned it.. He also said it killed the tow truck driver the day of the crash,,,slid off the ramp,,,,And Pieces of the wreckage sold off later by George Berris,were involved in fatal crashes, There are most certainly much larger things at work above/around us then we will most likely ever know. We are indeed,,,,Tiny,,miniscule ,little unseeable pinpoints in a GIGANTIC universe. Treat others better than you feel you should be treated and live happy.

[ironchop]

I have engaged the Quantum Power of my Mighty Ignore List

and`s it`s made this thread and many others suddeny so much more enjoyable. No way to get mad or frustrated if you can`t even see what someone is saying or are failing to make any headway whatsoever, right?. It`s a Win-Win IMO.

Whom am I to thank for this tool for peace?

[Mickey Dunlap]

thanks for the reply fabio. i only know a little bit about a little bit, but make an effort to learn something new everyday. i did reread your first post, and you did make lots of references to religion, but i feel religion has no part in a QF discussion, and here is why. other than buddism, every ancient religion was created on the basis of making sense of things at the time they could not explain. "do u know why that happened" "no?" "must have been the work of god, write it down!" after you do that several thousand times and publish it with the heaviest poetic license in history, and advertise it as the work of the lord, people have no reason not to believe, because they didnt know any better and didnt have anyway to findout otherwise.
fortunately for humankind, today we do. science explains phenomena WITH FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

mickey i have read u are "born again" which i assume means u were not brainwashed with these ideas from birth, but rather u chose to believe a book of nursery rhymes. with this ability to choose, i assume u did research on every worldly religion and after comparing, objectively made a decision based on what was most logical to you? because if not, i have news for u, seeing how all religions believe their god is the one and only god(other than buddism), all you were doing was picking straws. every post you have posted in this thread, is simply quotes from a fairy tale novel.
can you form your own opinions?
i would love to hear you form a objective idea that didnt involve "its the lords work!" i would love to hear your actual opinions as to what i referenced in my first post of this thread about the logical explainations to the instances i referenced. also a follow up to my request about telling jesus about how me and you are right now wirelessly conversating, instantaneously from 1000s and 1000s of miles away. i am dead serious.

have you even had spiritual experiences/encounters? because i have. i have had many. and contrary to what u spew, they have led me to believe it is the exact opposite of what the cult leader talked you into believing. they have taught me to form my own opinions, based on my experiences and the knowledge i have gathered from them.
the idealogy i live my life by, is that we are all part of a collective consciousness. ever wonder why there is not a pinpoint exact location of our actual consciousness in this organic computer we call a body? perhaps it is because it doesnt actually reside in our bodies. perhaps our brain is merely receiver/tuner like a radio is to a fm signal, or a television is to a broadcasted signal. thats why i said there is no they. we all are we. do i know this for a fact? no. this is what i have gathered based on my PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. is there a god? i dont know. and neither do you. you think you know, but really you just think you do. just like every follower of every other religion on the planet.
your ego that formed based on external stimuli is clouding you from realizing just how infinitely amazing simply being conscious is, and with that in mind giving the credit to a external entity u call "god" is really selling yourself(US) short. attaching the word "god" to something you deem to be HIGHER than our complexity is completely preposterous. we are a god. you are a god. i am a god. it really means nothing.
in every one of my posts am i trying to force feed everyone viewing this thread this idealogy? no. that would come off completely obnoxious and seem like a mind control tactic, just like everyone of your posts. just because you blindly believe a book wrote thousands of years ago without proof does not mean everyone else is that gullible.

fabio i would stay away from any gathering of individuals that have that mindstate. in all honesty, unless you are in a university where you can converse with physicists and philosophers, your not going to find the open mindedness you are looking for. but luckily for us, we have the internet. search out and study many physicists and philosophers findings, and form your own opinions and ideas based on your findings. there is tons of podcasts out there also, where these highly informed and intelligent beings explain their findings. pm me if you want some info on some links.

Why is it you PM me and call me a muppet, but you wouldn't answer my question to you?

Is there anyone that has believes a nursery rhymes, if that's all the bible is, why does it change peoples hearts? I had the faith of a child and didn't know anything, but there was something telling me this is right. It's a hard thing to do in front of 2 guys you just met, to get down on your knees and pray a simple but humble prayer, to ask God to forgive me, I have sinned against you, I believe your son died for me, to wash away all my sins forever, and to come into and live in me, thank you Lord for saving me!

I had no real idea what would and did happen in the blink of a eye, but it was by faith I was saved. You can't argue about that. You can't even begin to under stand anything about what God does to the hearts of men. I was dead spiritually. Now it's been since 3-18-1992 that that happen to me, and you would think if it was just some feeling I got it would have past by now. I remember my first win racing mini bikes, pretty big deal at the time. I raced for many years, but it didn't stay with me. I remember getting my first big contract with American Honda, a life long dream came true, one of only a small few that can say that, but it didn't stay with me. In fact it didn't take long before I was looking for the "bigger better deal"! But when Christ came in to my heart it for ever changed me, He is always with me, even when I turn my back to him, He's still there. You mock what you don't understand! Yes I can say for 100% God is real, and that everything He says is 100% true weather you believe it or not. Fairy tails and nursery rhymes, are just that, it's weak to say the bible is anything like that, and anyone that says that has never studied that facts, they just mock it with out really looking at the facts. It easy to say it's just this or that but not one of you has really set out to find the truth so you cop out and just say it's a nursery rhyme. So all we have here is some very selfish people trying to stop me from telling people the greatest thing you could ever tell them, putting down something they have no idea about. I say this is a sign of weak people grasping at something they admit can't be proven.

[Billy Golightly]

I have engaged the Quantum Power of my Mighty Ignore List

and`s it`s made this thread and many others suddeny so much more enjoyable. No way to get mad or frustrated if you can`t even see what someone is saying or are failing to make any headway whatsoever, right?. It`s a Win-Win IMO.

Whom am I to thank for this tool for peace?

I use it too, it makes things so much nicer..

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk

[JesseA420]

It's a hard thing to do in front of 2 guys you just met, to get down on your knees

here are your puppetmasters my friend. i have no idea what your PM meant so why would i reply.
there is no mocking going on m8. just because u take offense to the way i refer to a several thousand year old book wrote in metaphors for the reader to interpret the way they seem fit, doesnt mean i am mocking it. it is what it is.

this comment has me mind boggled, honestly it does.

some very selfish people trying to stop me from telling people the greatest thing you could ever tell them, putting down something they have no idea about. I say this is a sign of weak people grasping at something they admit can't be proven.

you say were selfish because we dont need you to save us, at the same time selfishly trying to force your ideas into everyones face regardless of the response over and over. you say we are weak, right after saying things such as "I was dead spiritually" and "the faith of a child and didn't know anything" about yourself. u selfishly assume everyone is weak like you were and needs help like you did/do. the irony here is mind blowing.




you quoted my entire response, yet literally repeated your 100% real 100% true 100% facts again, and once again provided no other reasoning other than how, the idea it is true, has changed your life. if that idea is what has made your life marvelous to you then great, but you failed to answer any of my directly straight to the point questions in my quote about actual things, that u quoted. please, i await your answers.

[Mickey Dunlap]

here are your puppetmasters my friend. i have no idea what your PM meant so why would i reply.
there is no mocking going on m8. just because u take offense to the way i refer to a several thousand year old book wrote in metaphors for the reader to interpret the way they seem fit, doesnt mean i am mocking it. it is what it is.

this comment has me mind boggled, honestly it does.

you say were selfish because we dont need you to save us, at the same time selfishly trying to force your ideas into everyones face regardless of the response over and over. you say we are weak, right after saying things such as "I was dead spiritually" and "the faith of a child and didn't know anything" about yourself. u selfishly assume everyone is weak like you were and needs help like you did/do. the irony here is mind blowing.




you quoted my entire response, yet literally repeated your 100% real 100% true 100% facts again, and once again provided no other reasoning other than how, the idea it is true, has changed your life. if that idea is what has made your life marvelous to you then great, but you failed to answer any of my directly straight to the point questions in my quote about actual things, that u quoted. please, i await your answers.

I asked a simple question, "What does your name (JesseA420) mean"? You couldn't understand that?

You mock Gods word and you don't even know anything about it. You can't fully understand it unless you have Christ living in you, and that is why people who are not born again come up with selfish reasons to believe parts that doesn't fit their way of life. Lets just take a look at what qualifies someone to be a pastor. He must also be “the husband of one wife” (I Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:6). Now my mom goes to a church where the wife is the pastor, but since that doesn't line up with what she wants to do, "they say that's what they did back then, but today things have changed". No! Gods word does not change. See that's where things go wrong , when people change the word to fit their life style.

You say it boggled you mind, what I say, I know you can't understand the things of God. You don't want me to be able to preach the Gospel because you feel it's all made up, but what about everyone that is reading this, don't they matter? Isn't that self centered you wanting me not to share with those that want to hear. I'm not taking any thing you say personal, everything I say is what God says to tell to all the world. I can't save you, that's Gods part, I can't force you and either will God force you to do anything, it's all your choice, you have all the free will you want, but when it comes down to death, your choice to reject everything you heard then there won't be anymore choices to be made. What is so mind blowing about that? It is so simple, you just are not there and I keep saying that's OK, keep searching.

I don't see any direct questions to me I need to answer, did I miss something or did you miss the answer?

[JesseA420]

the username? its somewhat of a social experiment so as to show a persons character based on how their view of the world has been formed based on their ideas/stereotypes etc. and no i dont partake, but thanks for the character confirmation.

as for the questions once again i facepalm. here let me hold your hand and lead you to them. i shall bold them so you do not get confused.

i have read u are "born again" which i assume means u were not brainwashed with these ideas from birth, but rather u chose to believe a book of nursery rhymes. with this ability to choose, i assume u did research on every worldly religion and after comparing, objectively made a decision based on what was most logical to you? because if not, i have news for u, seeing how all religions believe their god is the one and only god(other than buddism), all you were doing was picking straws. every post you have posted in this thread, is simply quotes from a fairy tale novel.
can you form your own opinions?
i would love to hear you form a objective idea that didnt involve "its the lords work!" i would love to hear your actual opinions as to what i referenced in my first post of this thread about the logical explainations to the instances i referenced. also a follow up to my request about telling jesus about how me and you are right now wirelessly conversating, instantaneously from 1000s and 1000s of miles away. i am dead serious.

have you even had spiritual experiences/encounters? because i have. i have had many. and contrary to what u spew, they have led me to believe it is the exact opposite of what the cult leader talked you into believing. they have taught me to form my own opinions, based on my experiences and the knowledge i have gathered from them.
the idealogy i live my life by, is that we are all part of a collective consciousness. ever wonder why there is not a pinpoint exact location of our actual consciousness in this organic computer we call a body? perhaps it is because it doesnt actually reside in our bodies. perhaps our brain is merely receiver/tuner like a radio is to a fm signal, or a television is to a broadcasted signal. thats why i said there is no they. we all are we. do i know this for a fact? no. this is what i have gathered based on my PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. is there a god? i dont know. and neither do you. you think you know, but really you just think you do. just like every follower of every other religion on the planet.
your ego that formed based on external stimuli is clouding you from realizing just how infinitely amazing simply being conscious is, and with that in mind giving the credit to a external entity u call "god" is really selling yourself(US) short. attaching the word "god" to something you deem to be HIGHER than our complexity is completely preposterous. we are a god. you are a god. i am a god. it really means nothing.
in every one of my posts am i trying to force feed everyone viewing this thread this idealogy? no. that would come off completely obnoxious and seem like a mind control tactic, just like everyone of your posts. just because you blindly believe a book wrote thousands of years ago without proof does not mean everyone else is that gullible.

also i would like to hear your opinion on my idealogy which is underlined.

remember form your own opinions based on your experiences, no bible quotes.

[Mickey Dunlap]

the username? its somewhat of a social experiment so as to show a persons character based on how their view of the world has been formed based on their ideas/stereotypes etc. and no i dont partake, but thanks for the character confirmation.

as for the questions once again i facepalm. here let me hold your hand and lead you to them. i shall bold them so you do not get confused.



also i would like to hear your opinion on my idealogy which is underlined.

remember form your own opinions based on your experiences, no bible quotes.

The answer to your username is great!Can't even give a straight answer to that.

As far as all the religions and their gods, where are they?, they are all dead! Jesus is the only one the was resurrected from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of the Father. That's it, I worship a living savior which lives also in me. So to answer a silly question about how we can talk from one place to another by computer or phone is nothing compared to how I can talk to God through the spirit. That's the real question! The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God, a living God!

As far as your spiritual experiences/encounters, I believe that 100% to be true. Do I know which spirit is behind it all, yes I do, but there is nothing wholly about him. By your own words you don't even know how he has impressed his ways on you. He will come into you if you ask too. He can come across as a angel of light, he likes to fool you into believing his ways, he roars around like a lion, but he is defeated by the cross. He is also why you keep saying don't use Gods Word! Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Any more question?

[JesseA420]

i have literally facepalmed more times in reading your comments than i ever have, in my life.
that is exactly what the username is intended for, sorry you cannot comprehend, and understand the concept.

religions are all dead? LOL. ill take that as a "no i did not do objective research and come to a conclusion based on said research, i just picked one and ran with it".

all i got from your final paragraph is that you, in fact, have not had any of your own spiritual experiences/encounters which makes everything you spew just passed down information, and zero first hand accounts. it is hilarious listening to you say you know what my experiences mean when u have never even had any of your own, LOL.

fortunately, i dont need to crutch on an idea of a higher being to feel i have a fullfilled and happy life. i dont need faith in an idea, i have faith in myself. i am my own god. instead of working on following said idea, perhaps you should work on understanding why you dont have faith in yourself without that idea. think about that.

with that said ive had enough of these bible babblings and need pointed to the direction of the ignore feature. if someone would point me in that direction that would be fantastic. sincerely sorry for feeding the troll btw. lets get back to theory talk.

[Mickey Dunlap]

i have literally facepalmed more times in reading your comments than i ever have, in my life.
that is exactly what the username is intended for, sorry you cannot comprehend, and understand the concept.

religions are all dead? LOL. ill take that as a "no i did not do objective research and come to a conclusion based on said research, i just picked one and ran with it".

all i got from your final paragraph is that you, in fact, have not had any of your own spiritual experiences/encounters which makes everything you spew just passed down information, and zero first hand accounts. it is hilarious listening to you say you know what my experiences mean when u have never even had any of your own, LOL.

fortunately, i dont need to crutch on an idea of a higher being to feel i have a fullfilled and happy life. i dont need faith in an idea, i have faith in myself. i am my own god. instead of working on following said idea, perhaps you should work on understanding why you dont have faith in yourself without that idea. think about that.

with that said ive had enough of these bible babblings and need pointed to the direction of the ignore feature. if someone would point me in that direction that would be fantastic. sincerely sorry for feeding the troll btw. lets get back to theory talk.

I understand what you username says, it's just funny how you answer a simple question.

Being born again is spiritual experiences if you want to word it that way, the highest form for that matter. And not only do I know about mine I said I believe in yours too. It's just yours has a sad ending that I pray you don't go to. Calling me muppet and a troll only shows your god as you say is weak, and the one true God is true. Seems to be a pattern here. Tell Mickey to stop talking about Jesus, and to stop quoting the bible. Then when that doesn't work walk away after twisting everything I said. Oh and don't forget to correct his spelling!

[redsox]

JesseA420,,, you brought the heat with your first post. i was very, very impressed. fast ball down the middle. but I'm now skeptical. more on that later. but first, let me say that i've had some long boring hours lately and this thread has been a crutch for me. super interesting. i love the content. especially the science and the theories and the "what if's." mind blowing stuff. but i especially enjoy the juxtaposed old school religious angle. maybe a bit over the top sometimes, but mickey can take a punch. he keeps getting ed but sticks to his guns. if you read my earlier post, you'd see that i admittedly don't know where we come from. i don't know the meaning of life. i don't know who God is, or why we're here. i enjoy the bertrand russell quote about the wise and the foolish. i think it applies well here. now before any of you think i'm tossing bombs calling you guys fools, i'm not. i'm just saying i think science can be dangerous. todays facts will be laughed at tomorrow. i'll give you an example. i'm a fan of old books. not books written along time ago, but rather books that are themselves old. i have an old text book from the fifties. its called "Man and the Animal World." Quite a read. its so backwards its laughable. but, i always think how it must have been written smart guys. scientists. the top guys of the time. things that were "facts" in that book are not "facts" now. science has changed things. the "facts" have changed. the rate of intellectual development is exponential now. we learn faster. things change faster. it won't be long before future generations look back on us as dolts. our grandkids will laugh at us as simpletons. the more doors science opens, the more questions arise. theories spawn theories. new facts replace old facts. round and round we go. my question is, does anyone think that QP will answer the "why are we here" or "where did we come from"? does anyone think that it will get answered? like, someone will someday say, "huh, there it is. there is the answer. through this microscope i can prove the big bang and we were all monkeys and there was another shooter on the grassy knoll" i doubt it. my position is that we cannot know. we were not meant to know. additionally, in this short time we're here, knowing does not matter. does it? if we did know, would it change anything? would future generations believe us? or would knowing become laughable? a fairy tale, balked at and disproven by future science.

as for JesseA420,, are you one person? or a team effort? some things in your later posts don't add up. i'm skeptical.

[El Camexican]

Just had a service guy here for alarms. Super polite great guy to speak too. He was telling me of the curse of "little " The Porsche Spyder that killed James Dean,, Aftr his tale, I immediately thought of this tread...Which I have yet to read unfortunately.. WILL someday.. The conversation evolved from him spotting a almost New Suzuki LT 250R out for fresh air today. He said his buddy raced Zillas.. Somehow thinking he had talked over me lol... Anyhow, I told him I had new and old of them and they were cool. And I had owned one that had killed not one,but two men. I very reluctantly took it on trade and very ,very reluctantly sold it after a LONG disclosure to the buyer how I thought it should be burnt... Not kidding. Anyhow, he said the car had killed men before Dean owned it.. He also said it killed the tow truck driver the day of the crash,,,slid off the ramp,,,,And Pieces of the wreckage sold off later by George Berris,were involved in fatal crashes, There are most certainly much larger things at work above/around us then we will most likely ever know. We are indeed,,,,Tiny,,miniscule ,little unseeable pinpoints in a GIGANTIC universe. Treat others better than you feel you should be treated and live happy.

Great (but tragic) stories that bring up an important point that has been touched on here already.

In my opinion things of this terrible nature (curses if you will) are related to the laws of attraction. If you allow something to enter and remain into your psyche it will eventually manifest into reality. It works both ways, good and bad. The King Tut curse, James Dean's car, the quad you had, Voodoo etc. Did you see the guy in the Internet the other day that tried to auction himself off the other day and only got like $20 bucks? He proclaims himself to be the worlds least employable person and he right. Not because he is, but because he believes he is!

Nothing is worse that a defeatist attitude in this life. As someone said; "whether you believe you can or you can't you're probably right" I doubt that the laws that govern this universe will ever be fully understood in our lifetimes, but one thing I am certain of is that we reap what we sow mentally as well as physically.

I hope the guy that bought that quad converted it into a trike and lived happily ever after.

[atc007]

Great (but tragic) stories that bring up an important point that has been touched on here already.

In my opinion things of this terrible nature (curses if you will) are related to the laws of attraction. If you allow something to enter and remain into your psyche it will eventually manifest into reality. It works both ways, good and bad. The King Tut curse, James Dean's car, the quad you had, Voodoo etc. Did you see the guy in the Internet the other day that tried to auction himself off the other day and only got like $20 bucks? He proclaims himself to be the worlds least employable person and he right. Not because he is, but because he believes he is!

Nothing is worse that a defeatist attitude in this life. As someone said; "whether you believe you can or you can't you're probably right" I doubt that the laws that govern this universe will ever be fully understood in our lifetimes, but one thing I am certain of is that we reap what we sow mentally as well as physically.

I hope the guy that bought that quad converted it into a trike and lived happily ever after.

My point exactly,,We reap what we sowe. As I know Fabio has seen.

Edit,,,My response didn't make a lot of sense relative to This post. I was tired,lol. I did put a whole 5 minutes of research into the Little Baztard,The pieces auctioned off,,,2 tires ,and another piece. They were clearly bought by fans. And then,,years later,,raced on, .I think,,,, someone who bought them,brought them into their lives,,,then went RACING on them, Had ZERO connotations they were cursed or haunted...But ended up dead anyhow.. The remains of the wreckage also fell over at Berris' shop and broke a workers legs,,,Stuff happens lol,,,,but,,,,,, I will make a separate post which I think is EXTREMELY important to all of this later...

[HondaXRider]

I think this thread should be turned into a book called LIFE???
Everyone needs something to hang on to.... to help them get through this life. Because no one is perfect everyone needs something to fill in the gaps.

[atc007]

I would like to ask how many here believe in ghosts, Furthermore,,,who have watched Ghost Hunters.It's a show on History channel, just finished their 10th season on tv. But have been ghost hunting MUCH longer. Long story short. I did not believe. My Wife watched the show religiouslly, I soon realized the founders, Jason and Grant,were as straight of shooters as you are going to find.Are they human ,sure, But wouldn't compromise their integrity for drama or anything else. They are Roto rooter guys by trade. And go into every investigation{,for free I might add} to DISprove everything that's going on. Over the years,I have watched them film ghosts of all shapes and sizes. Sounds,voices,things moving,almost every episode. One trick they have is loosening their flashlight to the point of no contact on the battery . And interviewing the ghost ,the ghost can turn the flashlight on for yes. We have watched this SO many times it is almost common. Ghosts are real, what realm are they existing in? Scary and sad. One investigation,,Here in Hershey PA. Old restaurant. Grandpa and Grandma are roaming this restaurant up and down the stairs,,,Blowing out the candles all the time,,, Broke my heart. I have personally had one 1st hand experience at my Sisters. They are absolutely REAL, How do we explain that??