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    1984 200ES Troubles

    I have been having troubles with a 3 wheeler for a while now and my dad and I have started working on it when we can. Here's the link to the original thread.

    http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...oblem-Question
    Yes, I thought it was a 1981 at first.

    Anyway, we're working on it and have a question regarding a part and I can't find it in a manual anywhere, although I'm sure it's there. What is the part that: is a round electrical component, about 1 3/4" long by 1 1/2" in diameter that the spark plug wire runs from it to the spark plug. It's mounted with 2 bolts to the frame. Mounted on one of those bolts is a green wire. There's a blue wire connecting to a spade terminal on this component.

    What is that part? AND How many ohms of resistance should there be for it? Thanks everyone, I appreciate it!

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    I forgot to mention. Dad thinks it's a coil of some kind, but not sure.

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    I also forgot to mention, dad has said he believes there's not spark. There has been some spark every time but now we're not seeing anything. What could that be?

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    The part is the coil. Here is a pic with the ohm readings you are looking for.Click image for larger version. 

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    #1Honda beat me to it. If the continuity checks out check continuity of the spark plug wire itself too. Sometimes wrangling it on and off a lot, the screw-on end gets intermittent.

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    Well, we've checked it and it doesn't check out right. So, I'm looking at getting a new one. The question would be, where can I get one? I've seen them on amazon for around $15 but the reviews are only 50/50. I've also found a site that will sell them as OEM but they're out of stock right now and they're also between $75 & $100, where would you get one?
    Last edited by Hunter79; 03-29-2015 at 09:50 AM.

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    I can't speak to the quality of this coil, but the price is definitely reasonable...

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ignition-Coi...d602f7&vxp=mtr

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    If you want a brand new original Honda part, they are still available from your Honda dealer or on-line parts ordering website.

    1984 200ES
    COIL ASSY., C.D.I. IGNITION
    Part Number: 30500-VM3-405
    Price on-line: $63.18 (at the website I use, prices vary)
    - Frank

    1984 200ES Big Red
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    1986 350X
    1986 250SX
    1984 Auto-X
    1984 ATC70
    1985 ATC70

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    I know they make the original Honda part. I'm just don't want to spend that much if an aftermarket part works just as good. If I can spend $11 as opposed to $63 or more and the $11 part works just as good, I'd rather do that. If the aftermarket part doesn't work, then obviously I will buy the Honda part. Does anyone have any experience with the aftermarket part?

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    I am willing to bet the coil you have is good. The 84 200es is know for the CDI Box's going bad. Finding a good one is hard because they do go bad.
    Howdy

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    Hunter79, there is a very good thread in Trikesylvania... just enter "1984 200ES Myth Busted" in the search block. Be sure to read the entire thread. It cost me under $20 to replace my cdi, and my 200ES runs great.

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    Well, we're still in the process of checking the ignition coil all the way through. Dad thinks it doesn't have the correct resistance though. I know one thing for sure. I won't be putting ANY part on it again until I know that part's bad. I've done enough of that. It won't even start now. Whatever has been sort of broken, is now completely broken. The screwy thing is, dad checked for spark through the plug and he could get a small spark to jump about 1/2" but then when he moved it closer to the ground, it wouldn't jump at all. When it would jump across the 1/2", it wasn't a good spark, it was very intermittent. He put a couple drops of gas under the spark plug and tried to start it then, it didn't even try to fire. So, we're just trying to eliminate everything there is to eliminate methodically and this is where we started. Thanks everyone so far for the input. I really appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripledog View Post
    Hunter79, there is a very good thread in Trikesylvania... just enter "1984 200ES Myth Busted" in the search block. Be sure to read the entire thread. It cost me under $20 to replace my cdi, and my 200ES runs great.
    Thanks tripledog. I'm headed there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripledog View Post
    Hunter79, there is a very good thread in Trikesylvania... just enter "1984 200ES Myth Busted" in the search block. Be sure to read the entire thread. It cost me under $20 to replace my cdi, and my 200ES runs great.
    Tripledog, is there any way you could show a link to that thread in this thread? I can't get the forum to find it for me.

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