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Thread: 200x dies when in creek . seem like a temp change does it. thoughts?

  1. #16
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    [QUOTE=effort=results;1366575]So a few weeks back at a local atv park with a creek that was probably like 38 degrees my 85 200x would die if i got barely half the bottom end in the water. Now first i thought water+electrics was the problem somewhere but she would fire back up after some choking and gassing. But if i got off the thing and tipped the thing side ways so one side of motor was in water and gas it she would stay alive. So today i got out the power washer ,removed the sprocket cover, started it up and laid water hard on all connectors . And there she sits idling perfect. So now im think this dg piped ,kn filtered stock everything else 200x is tempermental to the shock of change in temp. 42 idle jet and i think 1
    Along with rerouting the vents suggestion I would also check the sparkplug cap as mentioned. If it is loose fitting/wobbly or the in correct type. Water will splash under the cap and thus stall out. I like to fill the CDI plug with grease to seal most water from shorting it out here.(object as you wish ). One more thing to check is the stator wire (blk/red at the plug. The rubber insulator deteriorates after SO long & lets spark thru & it grounds out- since it is normally running along/touching the frame. I always put heatshrink around that plug/conn......
    Im not goin with the temperature theory.
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    1982 ATC 185S (224cc)- PK WELD-ON KIT, PK CLAMPS, PK EXHAUST, SL90 SHOCKS, OIL COOLER, PCCC RIMS
    1981 ATC 185S
    1984 ATC 250R
    1981 ATC 250R
    1983 ATC 110
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  2. #17
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    [QUOTE=3wheelrider;1366990]
    Quote Originally Posted by effort=results View Post
    So a few weeks back at a local atv park with a creek that was probably like 38 degrees my 85 200x would die if i got barely half the bottom end in the water. Now first i thought water+electrics was the problem somewhere but she would fire back up after some choking and gassing. But if i got off the thing and tipped the thing side ways so one side of motor was in water and gas it she would stay alive. So today i got out the power washer ,removed the sprocket cover, started it up and laid water hard on all connectors . And there she sits idling perfect. So now im think this dg piped ,kn filtered stock everything else 200x is tempermental to the shock of change in temp. 42 idle jet and i think 1
    Along with rerouting the vents suggestion I would also check the sparkplug cap as mentioned. If it is loose fitting/wobbly or the in correct type. Water will splash under the cap and thus stall out. I like to fill the CDI plug with grease to seal most water from shorting it out here.(object as you wish ). One more thing to check is the stator wire (blk/red at the plug. The rubber insulator deteriorates after SO long & lets spark thru & it grounds out- since it is normally running along/touching the frame. I always put heatshrink around that plug/conn......
    Im not goin with the temperature theory.
    im takin her out this weekendand hoping to do some testing. i also took the sprocket gaurd off and black taped the wires from stator up . the looked good tho. ill report back with results!
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  3. #18
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    The 70 I had was doing this exact same thing... Stator cover gasket ended up being my culprit.it was leaking at the bottom, and when the motor was partially submerged it would short out and die... Get it drug out of the puddle and play with the choke and pull it over a bit, it would fire back up. Had wet boots many times before I figured out the cause on mine. But also, the power washer wouldn't recreate the issue....
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  4. #19
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    The 200x has a wet stator. it runs in oil. On my 84 200x I bought brand new in 84 hated water . My current 84 200x does well. I shrink wrapped the wires where they come out of the case.
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