Banned off facebook trike site

[oscarmayer]

BTW. I am the guy that nearly died in an ATC accident back in 2010. My helmet saved my head and face from being caved in by my big red on an endo backwards flip down very steep embankment.
So your never going to convince me it is ok to not ride with one. Putting very slowly in the pits at a race on across the lawn is one thing. Going fairly quick needs a helmet minimum. I wish I had had s chest plate that day. I would not have shattered 4 ribs and bruised my internals.

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[RamsesRibb]

I don't agree. What got it banned was morons riding helmet less with flip flops no safety and being drunk.
I understand what your saying but that was not a correct statement. You can search here on 3ww and get links to the exact articles publish from back in the day along with safety reports and see for yourself.

Why are you do hell bent on being unsafe and displaying it? What is your purpose? Your reflecting on all trike community people not just yourself. I promise when (notice I did not say if) you wreck w/o a helmet and if you happen to live. You will wish you had. We cannot stop you from doing it, but we can express our dislike and distrust of what your doing.



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I am not displaying a lack of safety. I don't disparage anyone from promoting safety. By all means I think people should wear helmets, drive slow near others and avoid alcohol. I have a helmet and I love it. That's not my intent. What I am saying is that someone choosing according to their liberty to be unsafe without causing a menace or a hazard to others is, and should never be, anyone else's concern.

People riding in flip flops and no helmet did not get trikes banned. Falsified evidence showing that a hardtail with underinflated tires could be flipped over by a professional stuntman. Look this up. Honda backed out of the industry due to unrelenting law suits from people blaming the machines for their children's injuries, when it was an obvious lack of parenting.

No inherent design flaw was found on ATCs. Since the ban, a higher percentage of injuries has occurred from using four wheeled ATVs than ever occurred on three wheeled.

I fear that the last hundred years of government progressivism has polluted free thought in this country. Why do people think that the government has authority to regulate thought. This whole conversation is analogous to the argument of gun control, and should gun manufacturers get sued when someone is a victim of a shooting. Like the gun stood up and chose to shoot someone.

And in case you are not aware, when government authorities target someone or an industry the published documents enforcing their position is always skewed toward the unwritten goal.

But by all means give up your freedom for a false sense of security and safety. We will all be sorry.

[oldskool83]

freedom has nothing do to with atc's. riding like a morron is not freedom related...its retarded related.

Gear is cool and fun....a lid, boots and gloves go along way.

I hit a oddlay shaped rock on a 50" wide atc 2 weeks ago...my foot slipped of the peg caught the rear tire which tried to pull me under at about 45mph. i didnt get pulled off but my ankle got under the axle and boots toe got stick in rear wheel.

knee was starting to separate and foot felt like it want to split at above ankle. I got back on it after muddy ripped fenders off so i could get off the bike as i was stuck sitting on the bike with a leg in a position it should not bend. It was my kicker foot too.

I road 15 miles back to the truck later....can tank boots. Had nothing to do with an ATC could of happened on a ATV also.

I walked it off to only be sore a few days later but still hit the gym. Gear is cool, it is cheaper then beer and cheaper then being called stupid and retarted or R-Tard since retard word was banned as of 3 years ago.

[RamsesRibb]

freedom has nothing do to with atc's. riding like a morron is not freedom related...its retarded related.

Gear is cool and fun....a lid, boots and gloves go along way.

I hit a oddlay shaped rock on a 50" wide atc 2 weeks ago...my foot slipped of the peg caught the rear tire which tried to pull me under at about 45mph. i didnt get pulled off but my ankle got under the axle and boots toe got stick in rear wheel.

knee was starting to separate and foot felt like it want to split at above ankle. I got back on it after muddy ripped fenders off so i could get off the bike as i was stuck sitting on the bike with a leg in a position it should not bend. It was my kicker foot too.

I road 15 miles back to the truck later....can tank boots. Had nothing to do with an ATC could of happened on a ATV also.

I walked it off to only be sore a few days later but still hit the gym. Gear is cool, it is cheaper then beer and cheaper then being called stupid and retarted or R-Tard since retard word was banned as of 3 years ago.

Sorry to hear about you accident. Sounds like you where lucky to have not been injured worse. I totally agree about safety gear. But I am arguing on the sake of principle. Freedom has absolutely everything to do with ATV's. Freedom is the reason you and I can have this discussion. Never forget than my friend.

I can assure you that Chairman Maou of the people's republic of China, and President Putin of the Russian Federation would have different ideas about what we are allowed to do.

[atc12]

I also agree that one should be able to do as he wishes as long as nobody else is affected. Trikes are hardly in any spotlight these days and very few people care about them at all. And Oldstool you are free to stop by anytime and tell me what a moron and retard i am for riding my big red around my trails with no helmet or boots on. We would find out real fast who gets injured that day. I'm all for safety and responsible riding but freedom is also a very important thing. I wear safety gear when i know i should and do as i wish at my place. I also mow the yard with the plastic guard up and no helmet with a beer in my hand, i think we need more laws to stop that.

[greenhuman]

I couldn't really care less if someone stupid enough not to think about consequences hurts or kills themselves because of some ridiculous sense of their freedom being violated. I do object to their total disregard of how their decision affects everyone around them from the medical people wasting time and resources to their relatives having to spoon feed them and change their crappy nappies for possibly years into the future and having to look at them slowly fade away and wonder how could they have been so dumb and pig headed about something that is so plainly obvious. Don't go on about doing as one wishes as long as nobody is affected. Many people will be affected. You just won't know as you will most likely be in lalaland.

[atc12]

That's like saying medical people waste time on car accident patients because we all know cars are so deadly. Guns should be banned so no chance a mistake can happen. This freedom lets me go on about whatever the fvck i want Mr greenhuman. How about you keep your ass off trikes so you don't fracture your neck or back? They need to ban these things to keep us safe. You live in lalaland already

[greenhuman]

Hit a nerve did I? Spill some of your brains on the ground or against one of your trees and your so called freedom is all gone. Having to depend on others to keep you alive don't sound real free to me. If helmetless goofs were banned we could still buy new factory trikes. Think about that MR scientist, I mean MR atc12

[DohcBikes]

And Oldstool you are free to stop by anytime and tell me what a moron and retard i am for riding my big red around my trails with no helmet or boots on. We would find out real fast who gets injured that day.

1.Name calling is childish and against the rules here.

2. The second part of your statement is similar and even more direct than a statement that got me banned from here for six months. Fair warning.

More time outs need given around here. There's getting to be almost no moderation here whatsoever, unless the mods have a personal issue with a member which is obviously the case with me, and i'm fine with that because I earned it. I've been banned 3 times, all for less than what happens on a regular basis now. In addition, my technical contributions here have been much more abundant and appreciated than many of the people that have offended more often and more severely than myself. I guess I just don't get it.

[RamsesRibb]

Hit a nerve did I? Spill some of your brains on the ground or against one of your trees and your so called freedom is all gone. Having to depend on others to keep you alive don't sound real free to me. If helmetless goofs were banned we could still buy new factory trikes. Think about that MR scientist, I mean MR atc12

The thing about freedom is that you are free to die. It's not your job to make sure no one dies or get badly injured. This is a matter of principle not common sense. You are free to voice your opinion, and to advertise the use of helmets. But you shouldn't try to impose it.

Also, the banning of three wheeled ATVs and helmets really do not have any relation. You see if it were then all ATVs and motorcycles would be banned. (Bicycles, cars and horses. Hell we would have to all wear boy in the bubble suits to get anywhere.)

This is America . We are supposed to take self responsibility and not be forced to do things. I heard a comment about Darwin, I assume referring to survival of the fittest, and I agree with that to an extent. less people making poor decisions equates to less stupid people being represented by our government. You see, it's a catch 22. Dumb guy makes bad decision, gets injured and then he and his family stirs up trouble and takes everyone else's freedom to make bad decisions. Let's stop THAT! If you feck up, then man up and take responsibility for it. What happened to society people?where is honor hiding? Live by that and there is nothing to ever be ashamed of. Mistakes and all.

[loganm]

How is this even an argument? Why do people take so much offense to being called an idiot for not wearing a helmet? Yeah I'll ride around without a helmet sometimes, and if you call me out and say I'm a I'll agree with you, because it's stupid as hell to do any real riding without at least a helmet on.

This is America and you are free to be an idiot, but you better damn well accept the fact that you are an idiot, and take responsibility for your own stupidity.

[Scootertrash]

This is America and you are free to be an idiot, but you better damn well accept the fact that you are an idiot, and take responsibility for your own stupidity.

Are you familiar with the concept of irony?

And it has absolutely nothing to do with one of these:

[ironchop]

I'm all for Natural Selection.

Now we can argue with RamsesRib about freedom and you can counter with "but it makes us all look bad"

The truth is NO, it doesn't. Petty people who's vaginas do all their thinking for them like to stereotype others. Doesnt matter wtf machine, tool, skin color, political beliefs, or whatever a group of people want to use to stereotype folks they don't like.

Saying one or two trikers splitting open their skulls with no helmet makes us all look bad is like saying one or two white guys shooting up a church and a school makes all white folks look bad. Or makes all gun owners look bad. Absurd. The people that use the personal choices of an individual to generalize ALL people are dickheads. I agree with RamsesRib that we shouldn't keep trying to please these morons because we aren't doing it to "be responsible", we are only doing to keep our hobby safe from the ban . That means the milquetoast banners win. Thinking they won't keep trying to move the goalposts every time they get compliance is also dangerous.

Now I raised my kids to wear safety gear. It's the rule on my property for everyone who rides and I use gear most of the time unless I cruise at a safe speed across the yard to go find the dog.

It's a very slippery slope to expect to comply with every stupid intrusion into the lives and choices of other people by psychopathic altruists out to make themselves feel morally superior to others. I prefer to not give anymore quarter to those people.

My safety and my family's safety are my responsibility. Not the government or the CPSC or some friend of mine who's afraid his trike will banned because sissies used my wreck as an excuse to leverage power over all trikers. Doesnt matter if we all ride covered in inner tubes and airbags. Folks like these will find a new reason to try and take away our fun up to and including inventing statistics and events.

You aren't mad at your buddy for wrecking his trike drunk in flip-flops with no helmet on......you are mad that there are some pansies out there whom wield power over you using your buddy as an excuse to take away your fun but instead of blaming pathological altruists responsible, you blame your buddy.....just like they want you to. Assimilate.

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