Homegrown firepower!!!

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If you think getting hit by a stray bullet is breaking some sort of rule I'd like to hear which one.

If you think someone here is blaming the guy who go shot, I'd like to know why? The only one here blaming the victims of hunting accidents is Barnett.

Don't know about y'all but the first thing I learned about guns is that it is a machine, and machines fail.

Over the holidays I did an impromtu survey of a small group of the hundreds of hunters I know:

My Father: 60 plus years of hunting, target shooting and reloading. Employee of Federal Cartridge for 45 years, member of the Federal Cartridge Rifle and Pistol shooting teams, Goes to the range 3 times a week, every week, barring bad weather.

Myself: 45 years hunting and target shooting. Go to the range with my Dad occasionally, have my own "range" on my property.

Little brother No.1: 45 years hunting target shooting and reloading. Doesn't attend the range very often, owns 20 acres of his own "range".

Little brother No.2: 40+ years hunting and target shooting.

Not one of us have ever been involved in or heard of a mechanical failure of a firearm that resulted in the injury or death of another person. The only mechanical failures have been : Failure to feed , Failure to fire, and Failure to extract.

How do you know the person shot didnt make the mistake of not wearing hi viz clothing?

How do you equate "stray bullet" with "no hi-viz clothing"? If the hunter had been wearing Blaze Orange would the bullet have missed him and found someone else not wearing hi-viz?

Not wearing Hi-Viz in the woods while hunting is breaking a rule. While not one of the 4 firearms rules, it's a hunting rule none the less.

How do you know the other guy didnt have a drop fire or other anomaly?

WTH is a "drop fire". Nobody I've talked to has a clue WTH that is, unless you mean dropping the gun. The only other thing we could come up with would be a "Hang fire" which is a round that doesn't go off until some time has have passed after pulling the trigger. In the case of a "Hang Fire" the rule "Keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction" applies, does it not?

You guys are attempting to imply that these 4 rules if followed can prevent every accidental gun death. That is plain and simply ignorant.

No it's not, it's ignorant to argue that they can't.

If "Your barrel is always pointed in a safe direction" How could any bullet discharged from a firearm hit another person?

A man was killed last Sunday in Columbia County when he was shot while passing a loaded rifle to a companion in a tree stand. Wearing mittens, she grabbed the gun near the trigger and it went off.

Passing a loaded gun to someone in a tree stand stock first with the safety off. How many of the 4 rules were broken here?

On Monday, a hunter in Waushara County was killed by a stray bullet.

Found this additional info:
From the WIDNR website. I placed the link at the bottom of this post so anyone who wants to see the ignorance involved in hunting "accidents" can see some serious WTF?:

Victim was walking through pines, hunting deer. Victim heard two shots and was hit in the lower chest area.

2 mechanical failures in a row? 2 drop fires? 2 incidents of "The gun just went off"? There goes your first and 3rd scenario.

http://fox11online.com/sports/deer-h...nting-shooting

From the article:

Welk was wearing blaze orange

Scenario No. 2 debunked.

And lastly, from the article

"The public land is north of State Highway 21. It's on the west side of 24th Rd. and south of Brown Deer Ave."

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Map of the area:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mt...770c8c!6m1!1e1

So some moron fired 2 rounds across an open field, towards a road, with a backstop of woods on the other side of the woods, where he didn't know if there was someone hunting. Rule "Know what is beyond your target" broken.

For the record I own all kinds of guns and have been a lifetime hunting and lifetime habitat permit holder for 25 years.

Yea, and I've been having sex for 40+ years. That makes me a porn star.



Keep grabbing:



For anyone who want's to see serious WTF? when it comes to hunting accidents, here's the link to the WIDNR firearm accident report:

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/hunt/Inciden...ntCurrent.html

But hey, according to Barnett everybody should stay out of the woods because of a few idiots

612,377 firearm deer licenses sold in WI for 2015, and only 3 deaths, all attributable to ignorance or stupidity. How's about keeping the morons out of the woods instead of punishing the responsible hunters?

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As long as every gun owner is PERFECT just like scooter we will all be fine.

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As long as every civilian hunter does what Scooter THINKS they will do when the time comes, we will all be fine.

Here's something to debate.

When the hits the fan, I'm killing everybody I see because at that point noone can be trusted.

I'm not the only one.

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In fact I think it will be a great opportunity to get rid of some of these resource gobbling slobs.

Take the fox out of your ear and smell what the rock is cookin

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A buddy of mine forwarded this to me earlier, just thought I would share. I'm sure some have already seen this.

A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion: There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin...

Allow me to restate that number: 600,000!


Over the last several months, Wisconsin 's hunters became the 8th largest army in the world.




(That’s more men under arms than in Iran. More than France and Germany combined.)





These men, deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin to hunt with firearms. And NO ONE WAS KILLED.






That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania's and Michigan's 700,000 hunters,
ALL OF WHOM HAVE RETURNED HOME SAFELY.




Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia, and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states. It's millions more.


________ The point? ________

America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower!
Hunting... it's not just a way to fill the freezer.
It's also a matter of national security.





That's why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed. Food for thought, when next we consider gun control. Overall it's true, so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters don't possess the same skills as soldiers, the question would still remain...


What army of 2 million would want to face 30 million, 40 million, or 50 million armed citizens???
For the sake of our freedom, don't ever allow gun control or confiscation of guns.

I feel good that I have an army of millions who would protect our land, and I sure don't want the government taking control of the possession of firearms.

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

Why so many spaces? There you go again wasting resources.

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Over the last several months, Wisconsin 's hunters became the 8th largest army in the world.

No they didn't. They went hunting.

(That’s more men under arms than in Iran. More than France and Germany combined.)

Cool. Now add in all the other countries that hate us for being arrogant and wasteful while masses starve to death.

These men, deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin to hunt with firearms. And NO ONE WAS KILLED.

Really? 600,000 soldiers and not a single one managed to make a kill shot? Not much of an army if you ask me.

So you are saying that this 'army' has been trained religiously to NOT shoot at humans, right? MMMMM ok.

________ The point? ________

I really don't know.

America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower!
Hunting... it's not just a way to fill the freezer.
It's also a matter of national security.

The only thing I can say to this rhetoric is LOL.

That's why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed. Food for thought, when next we consider gun control. Overall it's true,

Nobody wants to take your pea shooter. If you think outdated ancient conventional weapons will be of any use against a real military you are very wrong.

so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters don't possess the same skills as soldiers,.

Say what now?

What army of 2 million would want to face 30 million, 40 million, or 50 million armed citizens???

Soldiers are trained to kill. Citizens are trained to fear.

I feel good that I have an army of millions who would protect our land, and I sure don't want the government taking control of the possession of firearms.

Nobody is taking your guns. They sure will make you think it though so you will buy more. Guns are easy to get and easy to hide.

AMERICA! Designed by geniuses. Now run by idiots.

If it were founded by geniuses it would not be currently run by idiots. It was founded by killers and slave owners. And we are surprised to be slaves to this day? Ha.

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Do this........ don`t do that ! I like to blow reefer smoke on my lures when i go bass fishing .......do you think thats an unfair advantage ?............or don`t you ? ...never mind i don`t care what you think ! See how easy it could be .......not being soooo up-tight ?....... I respect moozy`s opinion but it`s a fairy tale ...... you want to control what people say , do , and think scooter and you want to make more laws to insure no one steps on you`re toes ........FAACK-DAT !

Umm, wouldn't it be better to get the bass stoned first so they have the munchies?

If you didn't care what I thought you wouldn't be posting.

Disagreeing with someone else's opinion is controlling what they say? Who are you trying to control by disagreeing with mine? Or moozy's? Who said anything about making more laws?

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Holy fukkin schoolyard scooter make a point already you been staring at this thread for 2 damn days and all you got is that? The original post is laughable. You guys somehow think your ruger is going to save you from bombs.

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If you think outdated ancient conventional weapons will be of any use against a real military you are very wrong.

But yet in 2 "wars" in a 3rd world sh!thole, "insurgents" with outdated AK47s and other small arms and crudely manufactured bombs managed to kill 57,614 American soldiers who had the most modern technology? Not to mention they still control those areas, contrary to what "We have ISIS under control" Obama says.

It's foolish to underestimate the capabilities of people pushed too far.

Hiding guns? Why? If you're so sure "they" don't want to take them, why would you have to hide any?

So you're saying that the government and the gun manufacturers are conspiring to convince people to buy more guns. Because that's what it would take to convince the people to buy more guns.....

Lastly, for you to believe that all LE and military would take up arms against their own countrymen is naive. Particularly after the deaths started adding up. On both sides.

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Holy fukkin schoolyard scooter make a point already you been staring at this thread for 2 damn days and all you got is that? The original post is laughable. You guys somehow think your ruger is going to save you from bombs.

As as matter of fact I've been spending the majority of the last 4 days dealing with family matters since the wife's mother was diagnosed with cancer. An other f'n smartass remarks?

Your posts are just as laughable, trying to convince everybody that they should roll over and give up should the SHTF. What's your point?

If you'd been paying attention, my posts have been about Barnett's inability to accept the fact that people hunt whether he likes it or not, and your inability to accept that firearm "accidents" are caused for the most part by stupidity.

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No they didn't. They went hunting.




Cool. Now add in all the other countries that hate us for being arrogant and wasteful while masses starve to death.





Really? 600,000 soldiers and not a single one managed to make a kill shot? Not much of an army if you ask me.

So you are saying that this 'army' has been trained religiously to NOT shoot at humans, right? MMMMM ok.


I really don't know.

The only thing I can say to this rhetoric is LOL.





Nobody wants to take your pea shooter. If you think outdated ancient conventional weapons will be of any use against a real military you are very wrong.

Say what now?


Soldiers are trained to kill. Citizens are trained to fear.


Nobody is taking your guns. They sure will make you think it though so you will buy more. Guns are easy to get and easy to hide.

If it were founded by geniuses it would not be currently run by idiots. It was founded by killers and slave owners. And we are surprised to be slaves to this day? Ha.

Why so many spaces? There you go again wasting resources.

Takes one to know one I guess, huh?

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As long as every civilian hunter does what Scooter THINKS they will do when the time comes, we will all be fine.

Here's something to debate.

When the hits the fan, I'm killing everybody I see because at that point noone can be trusted.

I'm not the only one.

I never said anything about what civilian hunters should do when the time comes

I merely addressed your feeble attempts to brush off hunting deaths as something other than people not following simple rules for safe gun handling by pointing out the facts of the death you knew nothing about. Sux huh?

But then you probably didn't read the info I posted, it's much easier that way isn't it?

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I'm running up to WallyWorld for a new purse, BRB.

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