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  1. #16
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    Glad to help Sir.


    I think it can be said that between all of us, there is nary a problem that can't be solved..


    Now that you are getting to know how things are supposed to work in the drive, it shouldn't be too difficult to determine a good maintenance regimen.

    Other than belt condition, idler pulley bearings and other pretty easy to check stuff, one thing you want to check is your front augers. They should be bolted to the inner shaft that drives them with grade 3 bolts. If you could take a close up pic of the auger shafts, specifically the drive/shear bolts I can give a couple of pointers that should ensure long life of your auger gearbox. Alot of people neglect to grease the augers and they will end up seized to their shafts, resulting in the failure to shear the shear bolts/pins if an object is picked up and jammed in the augers. This usually takes out the auger drive and worm gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tripledog View Post
    Is there nothing these guys can't help fix?
    Nope ..A Great bunch of sharp shooters ! Always wanting to help each other = To bad everything in the world wasn't like that ! Or at least 1/64 of it .
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    Thanks red ! I will get those pics ....Do you mean the gear oil inside the auger drive or the shaft itself ?
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    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
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    The auger shaft itself that spans between the gearbox and ends of the auger housing. Some types take a regular shear pin, others take a simple grade 3, 1/4" bolt with a special shearing collar. The type that uses the bolt with collar should not use pins except to get you buy till you can replace the bolt, nut and collar.
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    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
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    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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ID:	225958 Shear pin .
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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    OK, you have the "newer" style augers where you have 4 separate pieces as opposed to 2 pieces (one on each side) of the older design.

    What you have is the correct setup. Do not use bolts in these.

    By any chance does each auger section have a zerk fitting?? If so, make sure and keep them greased or the augers will seize to the inner shaft that drives them and the shear pins won't be able to do their job if you pick up a piece of debris.

    Check the condition by first ensuring the engine is not running (goes without saying, but I'm saying anyway )
    -Remove the shear pins
    -Verify the augers are not seized to the inner auger shaft by spinning them on the inner shaft. They should freewheel fairly easily.
    -If there are zerk fittings (and there usually are) keep them greased periodically as needed.
    -If the augers don't spin and seem still locked to the inner shaft, you have a bit of a project ahead to free them up if you can't get them moving by hand.

    Note: If I recall, some manufacturers of snowblowers using this type of auger use plastic bushings to keep the augers free on the inner shaft. If that is the case, there may not be zerk fittings to grease. I could be mistaken about this though, it's been awhile since I was working on these regularly.
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    '86 ATC 350X
    '85 ATC 350X
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    O.K. I will check in the am... I have older snow blower 's so I'm thinking of pulling the bolt's out and checking to see if they spin as well ... Is that correct sir ?
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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    Yes everything should spin freely with the shear bolts removed.
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    X2 on what Coolpool said.
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    '85 ATC 350R
    '85 ATC 250R
    '86 ATC 350X
    '85 ATC 350X
    '84 ATC 200ES Big Red
    '84 ATC 125M
    '85 ATC 110
    '85 ATC 70/110

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