200S Confusions

[Flyingw]

Guys, I am very confused right now. I have two 84 200S trikes I'm working on. One has padded foot pegs, the other has rat trap foot pegs. The one with padded foot pegs has a trailing axle with the brake panel on the right. The one with the rat trap foot pegs has a leading axle with the brake panel on the right. One has a metal seat pan, the other a nylon seat pan. Does anybody know if there were variations in the 84 200S or am I looking at one mix and matched parts. The one with the rat trap foot pegs, metal seat pan, and leading axle does have an 80 185 motor but it was owned by a local high school used to drag the ball fields so I'm guessing the auto shop kids got ahold of it when the 200 motor went bad. The other one is basically original but it does have a speedometer on it. I have noticed in recent months both here and on Facebook a surge in activity with the 185/200 series hard tail trikes. That's a good thing. The 185/200 series hard tails are a great screw around machine and allot of fun to play on.

[DohcBikes]

Did you read the VIN's?

Sounds like one of them possibly has a Big Red front end on it.

Only one variation for 200s each year. The 84 should have the spring loaded pegs.

Sounds like you either have a frankentrike on your hands, or it just isnt a 200s.

Ive also recently found a soft spot for hard tails. It seems to be the one people aren't afraid to ride and damage. My current trike project is a mix and match of 3 different models. The hardtails have a lot of interchangeability. Can't wait to see what people think this one is!

[Chopsaw]

the 84 I had , was trailing axle , plastic seat pan and metal spring loaded foot pegs .

[350xtrike.rider]

the 84 I had , was trailing axle , plastic seat pan and metal spring loaded foot pegs .

Same ^^ sounds like its scabbed together.
But hey if it gets ya where ya want to go...
But all original is always nice too.

[Flyingw]

From looking at pics on the internet, The 200ES had a leading axle but the rest had trailing. The one with the padded foot pegs, the foot pegs are rigid, not spring loaded. It also still has the production sticker on it confirming the year as the VIN with an E. The other one is also an E frame. If I was to take the one with the leading axle and flip everything over, that would put the front brake arm on the back side which is wrong so these forks are supposed to be leading. No telling what's been done with both of these and it really doesn't matter as long as it works.

[Chopsaw]

I have had them were someone had clocked the lower tubes on the wrong side of the axle .

These are oil filled right ? I mean you would know if it was 84 or older BigRed .

[Scootertrash]

My 84 200S looks like this one:



Trailing axle, right hand brake housing, plastic seat pan, metal spring loaded pegs, glove(?) box behind seat, in front of grab bar, in the middle of the fenders.

I'm the third owner and I know for certain that neither of the other two guys modified this machine.

[Gearheadtom]

'83 ATC200, and '84-'85 200m had leading axle as well as the 200 big reds.

[DohcBikes]

From looking at pics on the internet, The 200ES had a leading axle but the rest had trailing. The one with the padded foot pegs, the foot pegs are rigid, not spring loaded. It also still has the production sticker on it confirming the year as the VIN with an E. The other one is also an E frame. If I was to take the one with the leading axle and flip everything over, that would put the front brake arm on the back side which is wrong so these forks are supposed to be leading. No telling what's been done with both of these and it really doesn't matter as long as it works.

The fact that they are both 84's doesn't necessarily mean they are both 200s'. It could be an M with an S motor or any combination of hardtail parts. If it were me, the first thing i would do is decode the VINS.

The pegs are almost surely from an atc200 or atc185.

P.S. cmon jim post some pics!

[Flyingw]

Ok, you wanted pics so here are a few. Not much to see. This is confirmed an 84 200S chassis. The motor is an 80 185. As you can see, this is the one with the leading axle. Like I said, it was owned by a local high school used to drag the ball fields. I was stored in a shed next to a creek. Apparently the creek overflowed the banks and flooded the shed submerging the trike. My neighbor was driving by the school and saw them loading it in to the trash dumpster so he stopped and got it. I got about a half gallon of water out of the engine. I flushed the engine and got it to run so my neighbor decided to put some money in to it. For the most part, the chassis is done. I'm still waiting on a buddy to send me a few parts like the headlight and brackets, dash pad, rear hubs, and a few other small parts I'm short. All the fasteners and steel parts like the rear axle have been to the plater for a fresh coat of Zinc. It had a seat with a rotten steel pan on it but I have a replacement seat standing by with a fresh cover. I have replaced all the soft parts i.e. cables, bearings, seals, brake pads etc. Everything is powder coated so this should be around for another 30 years.

[Flyingw]

This is the other 84. I haven't done anything to it. I'll get to this one later. Note the padded footpegs. It does have a functional speedometer. It did have a Goki on it but I don't think it was for this engine so it came off. A buddy did send me the correct Goki for it so when I do get around to doing this one up, it will have estart and a speedo.

[Scootertrash]

Second set of pics looks exactly like my 84 200S, except for that little button on the bar cover.

Where did you get your fork boots in the first set of pics?

[Flyingw]

They fit beautifully. http://www.ebay.com/itm/161699076789...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Scootertrash]

Thank You very much kind sir!

[Flyingw]

Alright guys, this 200S is really starting to piss me off. I went to put the 200S front fender on and the mounting pads are farther apart than the 200S fender so obviously this entire front end is NOT 200S so now I don't have a front fender for it. Given the wide spread I can assume its something like a 200E or 200ES front end as far as the upper fork clamps go. The bolt to bolt spread is right at 10". The spread on the 200S fender is right at 8 5/8". Can somebody tell me what front fender to look for? Now I know why somebody had bolts welded to the inside of the fender mounting pads.