200S Confusions

[Flyingw]

Oh and the mounting pads are 4 bolt

[Scootertrash]

I have an 84 200ES in my garage I'm working on for someone. I'll measure it up when I get home and let you know what I find out.

[ATCT]

Here's a Big Red fender you might want to check out. http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-84-Honda-...hWlavK&vxp=mtr

[atctim]

Sounds to me like the front end is an ATC200 (the non-S model). Everything I have seen in this thread points to it being said model. Look it up.

[Scootertrash]

What exactly does the "S" designate?

[Flyingw]

As far as I know, the S doesn't mean anything other than a model marketing thing. This thing is obviously hobbled together. The frame is a 200S frame but right now my focus is identifying the front end. The front fender I was trying to put on it was off the other confirmed 84 200S and it doesn't fit. The link ATCT posted shows a fender with side tab mounts so that's not it. This front end has top mount pads that are 10" apart. The 200S fender is at 8 5/8". You can see in the pic how the fender mounts are inside of the mounting pads. When I got this thing, there were 6mm bolts that were welded to the inside of the mounting pads so the 200S fender would bolt up. I cut those off and pressed on not realizing the fender was right but the forks were wrong.

[Chopsaw]

Jim I'm geussing its 200m . Looks like its an oil filled front end , so its not e or es . The " S " was a sporty version of the regular 200 / 185 which was a larger machine with bigger tires and a non shock front end .
The parts that bolt on a 200m front end , as far as I know only fit a 200m , like the fender , rack and headlight guard .

[Chopsaw]

http://www.hondaparts-direct.com/OEM...M3EAF14VM3E04B

Looks like 200m . Note the two eye lets at the top of the triples .

Link takes a bit to load .

[Gearheadtom]

What size tires are on that machine with the wider spread front end, and leading axle? That wider front end is off an '83 ATC200 (no letter), or an '84-'85 ATC200M, and should be running a 25x12x9, while the narrower one should have a 22x11x8.
The 200 big reds had a little different forks, plus the different tabs for the headlight guard and front rack.

[Flyingw]

If somebody has a 200M, could you give me a rough measurement of the fender mounts across the front.

[Flyingw]

I must be getting old or something. The front wheel that was on it is a 25x12-9. The backs are 22X11-8. I already bought tires so now not only do I have to find a front fender, I now have to buy a 22" tire that fits a 9" rim. This thing cant leave my garage fast enough.

[Flyingw]

I have pretty much concluded that this front end is a 200M given the fender mounts and front wheel. Now I don't know what to do. I could cannibalize the front end off the other 200S sitting here but then I would be stuck with the 200M front end facing the same problem later. I've already blown the budget on this thing so spending another couple/few hundred bucks on a front end isn't an option. This thing really is a frankentrike...

[Scootertrash]

I may be in need of a front end for the 84 200es I'm working on. The original front end is beyond repair. I need to talk to the owner and see how he wants to proceed. I've read here that the 200m front is a direct swap for the 84 200es.

I will try to pm you tonight, I'm super busy right now, but I will pm you by the weekend. Maybe we can figure something out that will work for both of us.

[Chopsaw]

200m front end is a upgrade swap for the es . Be aware that you need it all . The 200 es parts will not bolt up to it .

[Scootertrash]

FlyingW, I sent you a PM.