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    Quote Originally Posted by jb2wheels View Post
    Doesn't this solve the problem with chain adjustment changes during suspension travel? It would be cool to look at, too.
    Yes, that is what I was getting at in the post.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATC King View Post
    Not unless someone was just giving them away for charity, and intended to end up in the poorhouse because of it.


    Do some searching about the Missile Engineering kit for the 250R. Look at how much it cost back then. That was a bolt on kit that didn't require frame modification. Anything for a hardtail means there is no going back.

    More recently there was this business - http://www.bigwheelconversion.com/

    I watched him on the internet when he started designing the kits several years ago. This year, he just listed the entire business on Ebay and the top bid was only $3,400.
    Interesting.. I think the auction's value was more or less the machine included rather than the business. I won't claim to be amazing at marketing or anything, but the website is under 50 views / day and only 1500 likes for something that has been around for "several years" seems like bad marketing and not enough effort in exposure and getting the word out more. The 50k youtube views is more on par what I'd expect and am kind of shocked it is so high vs everything else.

    Just to put in context... I do basically zero marketing on my webstore in my sig, it has been online since 2013, and it gets around 100-120 unique views per day average with peaks on the weekends into 1200-1500. I just don't see how a simple webstore with not really much for sale can out perform something unique like that, even if the kits were overly expensive.

    I guess I should reword my statement, if there was an affordable weld on kit, there might be demand for it. I personally thought the fat cats were pretty neat, and converting a parts machine into a fat cat would be something I'd do if the kit was cheap enough. I have access to a welder, but not the area to build something from the ground up.

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    frankydodo is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    Well i guess i need to do a little update! The cold quebec winter is almost over ! Today it was a beautiful day ! (Also my b-day haha) and i worked on the fat cat atc.


    I have to say that i never weld before. I practice a little on some scrap metal and watched alot of youtube videos before. I think my welds turned out ok!

    A couple weeks ago i received my rear axle and also my wheel and sprocket hub!

    So right now it looks like this



    I'm kind of surprised of how well its going right now! I still have alot of job to do but its going in the right direction!!

    I still have to find a good way to mount the upper bolt of the rear shock.

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    I couldn't see the welds very well in the photos, but they don't look too bad of what I can tell. At least they are not the "bubblegum welds" (weld wasn't hot enough, too much material too fast) I see so often on our trikes. Welding isn't hard to do as a hobby, but there are a bit more advanced things that can be learned as well.

    What is wrong with the upper shock bolts where they are? Just looks like you need a shorter bolt and there is 2 bolt holes to adjust the height a little.

    Not sure how strong them shocks are, but moving them forward would allow for more travel of the rear wheel, and will make the ride a bit softer. However if the shocks are not all that strong, then they would bottom out easy if moved forward. I suspect it will be a something to play around with after the machine is together.

    Weather down in Michigan is a little warmer it looks like =), been hitting 40-50s lately, snow is basically gone everywhere finally! Now it is all mud.

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    frankydodo is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    I have to say that the hardest part of welding is not the weld itself. Its to find the right setting for the machine that was hard.

    I practice myself one after noon just welding scrap metal and messing around with the setting until i found a good one

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    Starting to looks like something!

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    frankydodo is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    Finally its on 2 wheel !


    New front brake and front wheel bearing

    Also discovered a massive play in the steering bearing! I guess ill go with allballs one!
    Last edited by frankydodo; 04-09-2016 at 09:31 PM.

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    I never heard anything negative about the allballs brand, so should be a good choice =).

    It is coming along quite well. If/when I catch up on all my million of side projects, I might have to try something like that with a 185s frame and a 200x engine. I'd be going for a little more travel though and the 200x front end if it swaps.

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    frankydodo is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    Finally a (little) update guys!

    I didnt have many time in the last week to work on the fat atc. But last weekend i took a whole day to work on it!

    And after 2 trial to get the chain align and everything. I changed all the jackshaft setup. I wanted to put 2 pillow block on the upper part of my swingarm. But it was total crap. Then i tried 2 bolt flange bearing on the inside part of the swingarm. Total bullshit also.

    I finally copied a design i saw online with some square tubing welded on the frame and i did that ! Best desicion ever haha.



    It was wayyyyy more easy than all the other crap i tried.

    I also ordered a pit bike exhaust that i will fit because the stock pipe exit on the center of the frame where the rear wheel is.

    Also ordered a spring loaded chain tensionner of ebay.

    Right now it sits like this!

    Oh! I also installed my new wiring harness from ps2fixer ! It fires on the first pull! Way too loud with just the header!

    Frank!

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