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    Quote Originally Posted by sledcrazyinCT View Post
    So Nico you mean single payer sucks and moola talks? Mexico lets doctors set the price? What does having in insurance in Mexico get you?
    Yes I think single payer systems suck. It sucked in Canada and it sucks down here. Great stuff if you have a condition that's going to cost you $300,000 to fix and you don't have the means to pay it, but all that's really happening is that 300,000 people who don't know you each put a buck towards your care. When 50,000 of them need that same treatment down the line the system fails and the system fails. Its failing in Canada and the single payer system here is a total joke here.

    I pay my insurance and I'm treated like a customer when I need something. I've been admitted to the ER about half a dozen times down here and it's never taken more than 30 minutes from the time walk in to seeing a doctor. Test are done in minutes and hours, not weeks and months and the results usually take less than 30 minutes. The doctors, hospitals and labs set their own prices, but there's competition and my insurance company sets rates the doctors can either accept, or walk away from.

    I haven't got a single bad thing to say about our private system. Mexico has taught me that human life is worth a lot less that we're told its worth in the first world. Everybody dies one day, so sooner than others. Exhausting all the resources of a family to keep a terminal kid alive for an extra year, or a 70 year old man for an extra month makes no sense to me. That probably sounds awful, especially the kid part, but the reality is that there are almost 9 billion people on the planet and we can't all afford the best care available.

    If anyone really wanted to make heath care affordable (like your Congress), making it impossible to sue doctors and hospitals would be a good start.
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    IIRC glamy, you were a plumber, correct? Union plumber?

    Tell ya what, I'll support you getting all the tax money taken from you back if you pay back all the people that payed you to do their plumbing. Why? Cuz free plumbing (or whatever your occupation was), is a right and people shouldn't have had to pay you for your services.

    Seems fair to me. Whaddya say glams? Plumbing (or whatevs) for profit is a sham and a ripoff!! Free everything for everybody!!! Bernie for Prez!!! Another millionaire who will fix things for realz this time. Venezuela here we come!!!
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    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

    Liberalism suspends the intellect of its victims, while at the same time tricking them into believing that they're smarter than everyone else.


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    Hit all the like and dislikes you want glamy, this isn't farcebook and I don't care if you like my posts or not.

    So what is it? Were you Union or not?
    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamy View Post
    Uncivilized cretin ?...........i don`t even know what that means...........you`ve been listening to that smuck Jordan Peterson ..........use a phrase like "you run your mouth" who died and made you king ? ..........heres another twisted phrase ......"anything is better then what we have now " (never said that)...........and then Jordan pencil dick says ......Thats almost never true.........little bull sh!t assumptions ..........so you can either apologize for being rude .........or else ......why don`t you get me kicked off ........because every time i hear that Jordan Peterson BS ..........you better call somebody .........you resorted to personal insults
    I'm not apologizing for anything.

    It's not Jordan Petersen either. It's called a highschool education.... Get one. This is Junior varsity vocabulary here

    Saying things out of the side of your mouth to knappy and you get mad about me telling you that you're running your mouth? You are one twisted mess.

    This entire forum is now perfectly clear about how the great and powerful Glamy can dish it out but his labia gets all stuck together when he gets what he gives.

    You escalated this. You came on here yet again looking to start a fight with someone and you got what you wanted so don't start crying now.

    You have this idiotic habit of getting mad at one person and then making broad sweeping generalizations about everyone else like that person and you insult others. Then you act like you don't know what you did. That's called 'gaslighting', a common tactic of narcissists.. Just like the redneck shyt. You got mad nobody wanted to talk about death rays again so you started attacking pickup truck and deer hunting because it hurts your feelings.

    I don't have the inclination (that means 'desire') or the power to get you kicked off. As a matter of fact, I hope you don't go anywhere. I can't wait to wake up every morning and see your ridiculous continuation of this argument because we both know that you can't quit. It's too hard on your fragile ego.

    I had alot of respect for you until last night and then I didn't. That's not going to change

    I'll patiently await your next irrelevant and side-stepping reply because, even through you promised, you still haven't "ended the conversation"

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    Here's another little tidbit:

    Whether you like it or not, there isn't a special room 15 stories below ground where all the "paperwork" exists with the "truth" to all of your conspiracies. Not one shred of evidence exists to point the finger or lay the blame at the real perps who committed or funded these crimes.

    Are you really that gullible and naive to believe that buried somewhere is all the evidence with the actual "truth"?

    It doesn't matter who your special guy is you would try to elect as Pres, he or she is not going to reveal Jack or Sh!t pertaining to your conspiracies to you to validate your feelz.

    In fact it doesn't matter who your boy is, you will never be happy with anyone elected President because they will never be able to give you everything you want. Not Ron Paul, not Jesse, nobody. After 6 months you'd be pissed because Ron Paul "Promised to audit the Fed but he ain't done it", or Jesse promised to "reveal the truth behind 911 and he ain't done it yet".

    And LOf'nL at Jesse for President. So somehow a conspiracy TV/radio show nutcase is better than a reality TV star?

    Slave to the man? Fackin LOL again. You're slave to a plant, an f'n weed, and you get taxed for it. Your state is bouncing off of turds and wrapped in wet TP, swirling the bottom of the bowl, but "Hey man, I gots my legal weed, dude!"

    Another Democrat/ProgressiveSocialist Kaliforinistan policy that didn't work. Again.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ca...xes-2019-01-10

    The Democrat’s proposed spending plan, released Thursday, projects the state will bank $355 million in marijuana excise taxes by the end of June. That’s roughly half of what was once expected after broad legal sales kicked off last year.
    Industry experts say the diminished tax income reflects a somber reality: Most consumers are continuing to purchase pot in the illegal marketplace, where they avoid taxes that can near 50% in some communities.
    By some estimates, up to 80% of sales in the state remain under the table, snatching profits from legal storefronts.
    That said, Drayton added that legal businesses need a break from hefty tax rates that are driving consumers to the illicit economy. Various proposals have been made to cut state pot taxes.
    Wooop der it is!! Legal businesses need tax breaks. But, but I thought the communists..er...um...excuse me, Sociali..... I mean Progressive Democrats were against tax breaks for businesses? Oh, that's right! Only for business they don't like!!

    The issues he (Newsome) intends to look at include the distribution pipeline and claims that local governments are gouging the industry.
    Wait! What?!?!?! Government entities are GOUGING? Hoolleee fack Batman! Say it ain't so!! That would never happen with healthcare. Nope. Never.

    Yea, the Government wouldn't do any gouging, nah, no way. They're only concerned about the citizens well being, they'd never dip into the cookie jar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Trick the people into thinking they're enacting their own will and you have willing slaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchop View Post

    I'll patiently await your next irrelevant and side-stepping reply because, even through you promised, you still haven't "ended the conversation"

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    Who would imagine a thread about politics devolving into such a mess?

    Glamy and Chop, stop it, both of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glamy View Post
    .........i need redpill cause i don`t know to treat a woman...........here let me jake off in my hand ! ........
    These are the broad sweeping generalizations I'm taking about Fabio.... willing to insult everyone from the TRP thread now because he's mad at me.

    I'll go away now and participate in other threads instead. I said what I needed to say.



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    Our next President?

    Scooter I'd appreciate it if you think again about my choice in regards for who I feel would be a good leader for this country. Jesse Ventura is a lot more than a "TV star nut job", or whatever it is you said. Jesse Ventura is a very smart man who isn't interested in BS, and I happen to like him very much. I've listened to probably hours of interviews with him and he's a straight shooter, something this country needs.

    Not only that, but he is one of the most highly trained soldiers this country will acknowledge. I feel like a leader with military training could do this country some good, so maybe the many sniveling civilian bitchez who have never served a day in their lives might learn a little respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
    Scooter I'd appreciate it if you think again about my choice in regards for who I feel would be a good leader for this country. Jesse Ventura is a lot more than a "TV star nut job", or whatever it is you said. Jesse Ventura is a very smart man who isn't interested in BS, and I happen to like him very much. I've listened to probably hours of interviews with him and he's a straight shooter, something this country needs.

    Not only that, but he is one of the most highly trained soldiers this country will acknowledge. I feel like a leader with military training could do this country some good, so maybe the many sniveling civilian bitchez who have never served a day in their lives might learn a little respect.
    Many of our leaders (and politicians in DC) have had military training and/or served their country and they still kowtow(ed) to the Deep State and/or failed to represent the people who elected them because Big Interest money speaks louder than the peons who elected them. Look where we are as a country.

    Can you guarantee me Jesse would be different?

    The other problem Jesse would have is the same problem Trump is having. He's an outsider who would be upsetting the apple cart of Washington Beltway politics. Jesse got some good stuff done here, but for the most part was met with resistance on most of his policies, as well as constant negative press from the media for petty little faux pas he committed, all inconsequential petty little BS. Sound familiar?

    Jesse Ventura called them "Media Jackals" and also used the term "Fake News". He'll receive the same treatment as Trump

    The Democrat Weaponized FBI has wasted 2 years and millions of taxpayer dollars investigating B.S. charge of "collusion" against Trump because he had contacts with Russia pertaining to building a Hotel there.

    Jesse had a TV show carried by Russian TV. How do you think that's gonna go over? (personally IDGAF)

    Ventura announced that he would not run for a second term, stating that he no longer felt dedicated enough to his job to run again as well as what he viewed were constant attacks on his family by the media. Ventura accused the media of hounding him and his family for personal behavior and beliefs while neglecting coverage of important policy issues. He later told a reporter for The Boston Globe that he would have run for a second term if he had been single, citing the media's effect on his family life.
    The above quote is from 2002. What would the media attacks be like now?

    I'm guessing your last comment about respect was not directed at me. I've never disrespected someones military service. Just because I may not care for someone or their ideals doesn't mean I disrespect their military service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabiodriven View Post
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    Our next President?

    I don't care if you know why I think Jesse Ventura would be a good candidate and I don't care to attempt to explain to you either. I don't care if you don't think he's a good candidate either. I haven't suggested you or anyone else vote for him, and I don't owe you any explanation.

    What I do know is that man deserves your respect, and the fact that you speak of him the way you do tells me that you know absolutely nothing about him, because I think it's likely if you did that you would be a fan. I don't care if you cherry-pick quotes that fit your agenda, but I suggest before you speak, you find out who it is you're speaking about. That man stands for truth far above that of the average person, and there's so much more to him than just that. You have a plethora of shite slinging quotes and articles to link if you want to, but just like the rest of the "information" out there, so much of it is fabricated that it's tricky to get the truth, except if you ask Jesse, because he'll gladly tell you. Maybe you can't tell who he is, but I can.

    Yes I am sticking up for a fellow veteran. Expect that if you're going to drag the name of another well respected veteran in the dirt.
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    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jesse-Ventura Does he currently do podcasts? Like to hear what he thinks of current POTUS.


    Don't know much about the man other than he managed to be elected governor of MN & my parents loathed I watched wrestling as a teen.

    Military service and serving in Congress has declined over the decades. Didn't realize close to 3/4 of lawmakers in the 70's served in the military.


    Below is breakdown after 2018 elections



    • 96 total veterans in the 116th Congress.
    • 30 are Democrats, 66 are Republicans.
    • 19 will serve in the Senate, 77 will serve in the House.
    • 48 served in the military after 2000.
    • 21 served in the military in the 1960s or earlier.
    • 19 are first-time lawmakers.
    • 7 are women.
    • 50 served in the Army, Army Reserve or Army National Guard.
    • 17 served in the Marine Corps or Marine Corps Reserve.
    • 17 served in the Air Force, Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard.
    • 13 served in the Navy or Naval Reserve.
    • 1 served in the Coast Guard.


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    Scooter you live in MN during Ventura's term as governor?

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    Our next President?

    I've been a huge Howard Stern fan since the age of 17 (I'm 39 now). There were years where I would listen just about every single day. People scoff at the thought of Howard Stern, but he is in my opinion the best interviewer of all time. He gets to points in interviews with people that are so deep, you can't imagine people would say those things publicly while millions of people listen. Often times people who have been on the show express that after the fact, that they didn't even think about being on the air. The interviews are very intimate and raw, and you can see what these people really are once they're themselves on the air with Howard.

    The Howard Stern show was my introduction to Jesse Ventura other than the movie Predator. I never watched wrastling. The Howard Stern show was also my introduction to Donald Trump and his family. I knew them years before you all and I liked him! I wouldn't say I dislike him now, but rather I'm unsure.

    I saw something recently with Jesse that I remember almost sharing at the time, I don't recall what it was now. I don't listen to podcasts so I don't know about that. What I do know is he is an outstanding example of a soldier, because it takes a very special person to do what he has. I don't care if you're a general, the real soldier is a United States Navy SEAL. The general might even tell you that behind closed doors.

    Aside from that (going from memory), he was a very active member of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. I recall him telling stories of the way he got things done politically, plowing through red tape bee ess to get shite done. I like how he exposes truth and seeks out answers to things that nobody else is asking questions about.

    If anybody wants to learn about Jesse Ventura there's plenty to see and hear. If you happen to have the time and patience, and would be genuinely interested, old Howard Stern interviews would be a great place to hear what he really has to say. I don't imagine many people taking the time to sit back and listen to a couple of hours of interviews, but if you'd really like to learn, there it is. As popular as the Howard Stern show is, sometimes it's amazing the tidbits that come out on the air there that you never hear anywhere else.
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