How many Pistons do I have to ruin

[Jd110]

Excuse me, but.......seems like a few of you experts would rather engage in muscle flexing and insults, rather than saying something nice to someone that posted something you asked for in your own thread. If you don't like the response from someone your helping, why not stop helping? Period. Move on. When some of you are challenged or not listened to, you get all bent and the insults start. Let's just try and keep it clean.

[freewheeler]

Excuse me, but.......seems like a few of you experts would rather engage in muscle flexing and insults, rather than saying something nice to someone that posted something you asked for in your own thread. If you don't like the response from someone your helping, why not stop helping? Period. Move on. When some of you are challenged or not listened to, you get all bent and the insults start. Let's just try and keep it clean.

Oh have you not been around here long? Ok.

See what happens here, is that somewhere around ten or 15 members on this site get to say absolutely anything they would like to say without repercussions, while the masses of new and even older members are stifled into submission. If you don't begin to agree with this 'inner circle' or clique quite promptly, you become a target for their amusement. It's pretty well just a place for this small group of hobbyists to gather without opposition t their opinions and interaction. This behavior is supported by the administration here and is undoubtedly the reason for the rapidly declining interaction on the site.

Enjoy.

[sledcrazyinCT]

JD110 the thread started cordial just got ugly when OP made the retarded statement that people on this forum don't know much, if anything, compared to his local pro shop mechanic.
The OP took a shot at members who operate a shop or earn a living building engines.

This site is here at no cost to join so please respect the privilege and if you happen to not trust someone's advice here be civil enough to agree to disagree without the talking when you asked for the help in the first place

[Scootertrash]

JD110 the thread started cordial just got ugly when OP made the retarded statement that people on this forum don't know much, if anything, compared to his local pro shop mechanic.
The OP took a shot at members who operate a shop or earn a living building engines.

This site is here at no cost to join so please respect the privilege and if you happen to not trust someone's advice here be civil enough to agree to disagree without the talking when you asked for the help in the first place

This is exactly the problem and the solution. OP asked for help and basically flipped off those who were trying to help with the correct way to solve his mechanical problems.

There are many years of experience by members with tons of hours behind the wrenches on this site available at no cost.

[Scootertrash]

Oh have you not been around here long? Ok.

See what happens here, is that somewhere around ten or 15 members on this site get to say absolutely anything they would like to say without repercussions, while the masses of new and even older members are stifled into submission. If you don't begin to agree with this 'inner circle' or clique quite promptly, you become a target for their amusement. It's pretty well just a place for this small group of hobbyists to gather without opposition t their opinions and interaction. This behavior is supported by the administration here and is undoubtedly the reason for the rapidly declining interaction on the site.

Enjoy.

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[Jd110]

Sure. I can try...some days are better than others. A person might say something one day they wouldn't say the next. Nobody is perfect. Get over it. Take the bad with the good. And don't fixate on the negative just to ignore the positive posts. There is a lot of good stuff here. Just saying-please try to be cool. Thanks

[AK47KID]

Pretty sensitive aren't you?

I'm not trolling. I'm asking questions to find out how you came to your conclusion. You didn't say which motor you were talking about, so I had to assume it was one of your non running motors.

I'll ask you again, like I've asked in your other threads "DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?"

Adjusting the screw by the dipstick won't change the amount of play in the shifter. It's for adjusting the clutch. The operation of the clutch has nothing to do with the play in the shifter. THERE IS NO ADJUSTMENT FOR PLAY IN THE SHIFTER.

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

If your clutch plates are worn out of spec, you will not be able to properly adjust the clutch. If you can't properly adjust the clutch, guess what? HARD SHIFTING

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

Have you checked the splines on the shifter shaft and inside the shifter lever to be sure that the shifter lever isn't slipping causing what you consider to be excessive play?

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

From the Honda Service Manual/Clutch Oil Pump Chapter/Troubleshooting

HARD TO SHIFT

1. Stopper plate damaged
2. Incorrect clutch adjustment
3. Faulty clutch lifter

From the Honda Service Manual/ Transmission Chapter/ Troubleshooting:

HARD TO SHIFT
1. Shift fork bent
2. Shift fork shaft bent

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

All of these potential causes of your problem can be inspected, diagnosed, and repaired BY USING THE SERVICE MANUAL

Guess what? If the parts in your 185 are out of spec, you can use the parts in your newly purchased engine without a top end (if they are present in the engine and in spec), to repair the shifting issues in your 185 so you have a running auto x while you make sure the other 200 is running or capable of running instead of wasting all the time swapping out and engine that may not run.

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

F'n Millennials. You want everyone else to do the footwork for you and when you don't hear what you want or get what you want "It's not fair!! Stop picking on me!! Jesus H jumping Christ on a pogo stick.

You know why a lot of mechanical/repair/diagnostic questions get very few responses?

A. Because 99% of them have already been answered multiple times and the answers are easily found using the search function. But then someone would actually have to do some reading to find the answer. Waaaaayyy too much work.

B. Threads like this where young punk, wet behind the ears know it alls ask for help, then disrespect the ones trying to help them, or even better yet? Tell them they don't know what they're talking about.

Oh Yea, did I forget to ask: DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

I'm no expert at engines but I know a thing or 2 and my knowledge is increasing because of this site. Why do you thrash most threads I post asking for help about stuff. If I had a God damn manual for all my machines it still wouldn't help. I know what the screw is for. I knew it wouldn't help with fork play. Why would I just look in a manual with out asking the experts what I could do before I tear down of the engine, or what the cause could be? No one else has a problem with me asking questions it's only you. Whither it's my thread or not you trash everything I say. Ya I'm 15 at leased I act mature and don't start crap with other people like YOU do.

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[loganm]

Pretty sensitive aren't you?

I'm not trolling. I'm asking questions to find out how you came to your conclusion. You didn't say which motor you were talking about, so I had to assume it was one of your non running motors.

I'll ask you again, like I've asked in your other threads "DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?"

Adjusting the screw by the dipstick won't change the amount of play in the shifter. It's for adjusting the clutch. The operation of the clutch has nothing to do with the play in the shifter. THERE IS NO ADJUSTMENT FOR PLAY IN THE SHIFTER.

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

If your clutch plates are worn out of spec, you will not be able to properly adjust the clutch. If you can't properly adjust the clutch, guess what? HARD SHIFTING

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

Have you checked the splines on the shifter shaft and inside the shifter lever to be sure that the shifter lever isn't slipping causing what you consider to be excessive play?

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

From the Honda Service Manual/Clutch Oil Pump Chapter/Troubleshooting

HARD TO SHIFT

1. Stopper plate damaged
2. Incorrect clutch adjustment
3. Faulty clutch lifter

From the Honda Service Manual/ Transmission Chapter/ Troubleshooting:

HARD TO SHIFT
1. Shift fork bent
2. Shift fork shaft bent

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

All of these potential causes of your problem can be inspected, diagnosed, and repaired BY USING THE SERVICE MANUAL

Guess what? If the parts in your 185 are out of spec, you can use the parts in your newly purchased engine without a top end (if they are present in the engine and in spec), to repair the shifting issues in your 185 so you have a running auto x while you make sure the other 200 is running or capable of running instead of wasting all the time swapping out and engine that may not run.

DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

F'n Millennials. You want everyone else to do the footwork for you and when you don't hear what you want or get what you want "It's not fair!! Stop picking on me!! Jesus H jumping Christ on a pogo stick.

You know why a lot of mechanical/repair/diagnostic questions get very few responses?

A. Because 99% of them have already been answered multiple times and the answers are easily found using the search function. But then someone would actually have to do some reading to find the answer. Waaaaayyy too much work.

B. Threads like this where young punk, wet behind the ears know it alls ask for help, then disrespect the ones trying to help them, or even better yet? Tell them they don't know what they're talking about.

Oh Yea, did I forget to ask: DO YOU HAVE A SERVICE MANUAL?

Or maybe, believe it or not, you don't know everything. Someone, onformula maybe, told me they've only blown up 1 engine. If you've only blow up one engine, how do you know what doesn't work? The inventor of the lightbulb failed over 100 times before they got it right.

I can tell you tons of ways not to rebuild an engine, I can tell you tons of ways not to weld a 2G open root, I can tell you tons of things not to do when attempting a max deadlift. How? Through experience, and doing it the wrong way myself. I don't claim to know everything, but I know some stuff, and I know exactly what my engine runs like, unlike anyone else here.

I never completely dismissed the fact that it wasn't an air leak, but I will do things my way, you don't have to get all bent out of shape about it.

[Billy Golightly]

Oh have you not been around here long? Ok.

See what happens here, is that somewhere around ten or 15 members on this site get to say absolutely anything they would like to say without repercussions, while the masses of new and even older members are stifled into submission. If you don't begin to agree with this 'inner circle' or clique quite promptly, you become a target for their amusement. It's pretty well just a place for this small group of hobbyists to gather without opposition t their opinions and interaction. This behavior is supported by the administration here and is undoubtedly the reason for the rapidly declining interaction on the site.

Enjoy.

Not really. Its just after 20 years of watching the same pissing matches and penor measuring contests, our effs given meter is running a little low.

[Jd110]

Hello billy. First off, not exactly sure your position here as it does seem high up, but want to thank you for all your time into this site. There is a lot of wonderful people here with loads of experience. We are all here for the same common goal-the enjoyment of our trikes. I understand conflict will be inevitable. It is a major turn off when experts insult. I'm sorry they feel that need. I do appreciate all the knowledge they offer. Thank you, again, and please keep up the good work!

[loganm]

Needles came, the mystery needle is a good 4 mm shorter than these keihin ones! And the diameter is ~ the same as the leanest needle I bought. Wish me luck, lol.

Also, 35F needle has a shallower taper then any of the needles I bought, and is still noticeably thicker at the end of the taper. Even still the engine is running fat AF. Hopefully this gives me some insight as to what is going on if it doesn't fix the problem.

[Scootertrash]

Why do you thrash most threads I post asking for help about stuff.

Posting a simple, easy to access solution for ALL of your mechanical problems IS NOT "thrashing your threads"

If I had a God damn manual for all my machines it still wouldn't help.

You're joking, right? Nah, nevermind, you're right. A book with all the info you need to troubleshoot, diagnose and repair the problems you have with your machine(s) would be totally worthless. I mean, why else would stealerships and professional mechanics have copies of FACTORY Service manuals available for their expert mechanics, right?

Why would I just look in a manual with out asking the experts what I could do before I tear down of the engine, or what the cause could be?

Because the Service Manual is written up BY THE FACTORY EXPERTS WHO BUILT THE MACHINE. WTF more could you ask for?

Everything I posted above for troubleshooting your shifter problem is DIRECTLY, VERBATIM, WORD FOR WORD FROM THE SERVICE MANUAL THAT'S WRITTEN BY EXPERTS AT THE FACTORY FOR FACTORY MECHANICS. In the clutch and/or transmission section of the SERVICE MANUAL it will tell you how to access and inspect these parts and how to fix your problem. It's really that easy!

No one else has a problem with me asking questions it's only you.

If I had a problem with you asking questions, I wouldn't have given you the information you need to diagnose your problem and the access to the information you can use to diagnose and repair virtually ANY problem you may have with your 3 wheeler. Which includes the recommendation of having access to a SERVICE MANUAL.

Ya I'm 15 at leased I act mature and don't start crap with other people like YOU do.

Yea, temper tantrums and hissy fits are sooo mature. I've given you all the info you need, but I'm sure you'll find something to whine about.

my knowledge is increasing because of this site

That's good that you're making progress. Now all you need to learn is that a SERVICE MANUAL is an important part of any mechanics tools.

[Scootertrash]

Here, I'll condense it for you so it's easier to follow:

If your clutch plates are worn out of spec, you will not be able to properly adjust the clutch. If you can't properly adjust the clutch, guess what? HARD SHIFTING

Have you checked the splines on the shifter shaft and inside the shifter lever to be sure that the shifter lever isn't slipping causing what you consider to be excessive play?

From the Honda Service Manual/Clutch Oil Pump Chapter/Troubleshooting

HARD TO SHIFT

1. Stopper plate damaged
2. Incorrect clutch adjustment
3. Faulty clutch lifter

From the Honda Service Manual/ Transmission Chapter/ Troubleshooting:

HARD TO SHIFT
1. Shift fork bent
2. Shift fork shaft bent

If the parts in your 185 are out of spec, you can use the parts in your newly purchased 200 engine without a top end (if they are present in the engine and in spec), to repair the shifting issues in your 185 so you have a running auto x while you make sure the other 200 is running or capable of running instead of wasting all the time swapping out an engine that may not run.

And lastly, Since you're too smart to ask the most important question "Is there anywhere I can get copies of manuals?" here is a link to a site with copies of service manuals in PDF form. Unfortunately you'll have to d/l them and read them yourself, I don't have the time to come and read them to you.

http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/


Giving advice on this site is like trying to teach knots to Cub Scouts. Some get it, some try, some just chew on the rope.

[loganm]

Well, I seized it up solid this time. It was after a long stretch (5min) of half throttle riding. Went fine till the very end I noticed it was starting to get hot (watching temp the whole time) so I backed off a bit. Ending temp was 315 ish. Pushed the kicker over slow and could tell the top end was fried. This is what the plug looks like.



Do you think this was from a lean condition, caused by jetting, or still an air leak issue?

Or, a top end that's still too tight?

140 main jet, needle is KLG. I don't know the pilot but the idle is on the rich side.

[Billy Golightly]

Hello billy. First off, not exactly sure your position here as it does seem high up, but want to thank you for all your time into this site. There is a lot of wonderful people here with loads of experience. We are all here for the same common goal-the enjoyment of our trikes. I understand conflict will be inevitable. It is a major turn off when experts insult. I'm sorry they feel that need. I do appreciate all the knowledge they offer. Thank you, again, and please keep up the good work!

What's a major turn off is when the people that have been doing this stuff for a long, long time (Some longer than other members have been alive...) take the time and effort to explain a solution, or several solutions for a problem, and a person doesn't particularly pay any mind to it, or doesn't take the time to fully absorb and understand what was offered to them. So then they're running off and buying the next shiny widget for their machine with the expectations of it mysteriously solving the problem. Not fully understanding what their parameters and variables to the problem they are having, actually are after someone is willing to and takes THEIR TIME to try and help/explain it. That's a little frustrating. Sometimes leading questions are asked for a reason in diagnosis - catch a fish for a man and feed him a day, teach him to fish and feed him for life. Sometimes there seems to be very little appreciation for the time and effort some of these guys give towards just sharing information and helping out, but it is the entitlement generation I guess.

I think I just went full on crotchety old man mode. Carry-on.