Interest in Hoosier Re-Making the Front Tri-Trac

[86T3]

Lower the number, the softer the compound.

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These new tire made specifically for trikes (the first trike specific tire in 30 years?) is called T30, but I'm told that the hardness is much higher than a 30, closer to 42. We never measured it with a durometer though. The regular quad tires are "D"s. ie d12, d20

[Mickey Dunlap]

"I" or "me" over 20 times.

This thread isnt about you mickey.

What a dork, yes I talk about what "I" know and what works for "me", at least I bring some thing to the subject. How many nationals have you won, how many factories have you worked for? What purpose do you serve here?

[DohcBikes]

Since i dont suffer from an affliction that requires me to seek aproval or staus, im here to let people know when other people are full of shlt up to their eyeballs. Im damn good at it too.

[DohcBikes]

Mickey, ill tell you what.

I havent begun to offer my true opinion about you. Youre pushing it though. I gaurantee you wont like it.

[big specht]

I'm not going to go round and round with everyone. I'll figure out what is going to work and I go with it, that's the kind of thing you do as a racer. Everyone laughed at me for running these little Carlisle 16X9.50X8's when everyone used 18's. I won races because I don't follow and do the same thing as everyone else, but they sure picked up on it quick. The Halls told me they had the Hoosier thing handled, I felt they were going backwards but I did what they asked. I'm not going to call Hoosier on this because they are working with the #1 rider and I'm not going to get in the middle of it. I have been going around to these races again for a few years now, I watch everything very close, I see how the racers are getting a lot faster each year and just like we started out with lawn tires so did they, but now they need better stuff. I don't have the fastest rider, but he's getting there, he just needs some help. Set up is a very touchy thing, we missed it by changing the fork setting by a 1/4 of a inch on Friday night because the track changed 3 times that night. Just like any racing if you miss the set up you are not going to go as fast. In Bryans main he wasn't ready for the track to get sticky going into the first corner, he started to tip and had to get off the throttle and that cost him. He will learn what to do next time, he learns quick. I will have a few more riders I'll try to help next year so I'm going to need to keep building better stuff and this $200 front R&D tire is just part of it. I came on here to share it because you are not going to get Hoosier to build the old style one, there are just not the numbers, plus no one is telling them why they need it. I seen Hall running the small quad tires on the front and it is twitchy , it's running on too small of a patch on the ground and when a 3 wheel turns a flat type tire it loose more of what's on the ground. IMO you need a sticky tire with a large patch on the ground all the time, no less then 21 inches tall if you are running 15's to 18's on the rear. This is just my opinion, take it or don't.

I second that. Like you said there is a lot of reading in between the line on here. As for trying something new, if know body try's it the sport will go know where.

[Toaster556]

I don't have a horse in this race, but has anyone tried asking American Racer? They list custom tires on their site

[86T3]

BKM and I, with the help of some knowledge from my buddy Matt Kemp, we're able to relearn some knowledge from the past. I thought I'd share it so people could find it in the future. Hoosier made 2 size front tires, a 6" wide and and 8" wide. They were both 21"s tall and only made for a 10" rim. The 6" wide tires have 5 "ribs" and the 8" wide tires and 6 "ribs". The 8" wide tires appear to be too wide for narrow tire trikes, ie, 2nd Gen tecates, 200x's, 350x's, and 2nditch and 3rd Gen R's. Here's some pictures and an old ad to show the differences.

[xrider]

BKM and I, with the help of some knowledge from my buddy Matt Kemp, we're able to relearn some knowledge from the past. I thought I'd share it so people could find it in the future. Hoosier made 2 size front tires, a 6" wide and and 8" wide. They were both 21"s tall and only made for a 10" rim. The 6" wide tires have 5 "ribs" and the 8" wide tires and 6 "ribs". The 8" wide tires appear to be too wide for narrow tire trikes, ie, 2nd Gen tecates, 200x's, 350x's, and 2nditch and 3rd Gen R's. Here's some pictures and an old ad to show the differences.

I have one of each version and yes this is true

[86T3]

It was just a misunderstanding on your part, I had all ready said the same thing on a earlier post on here about how to talk to Hoosier to help them market it. I'm not mad a Halls at all, I stayed out of it because they asked me too. There are only a few riders that could use the better tires, most like you said wanted harder tire, but they are not winning. It's very hard to race a 3 wheeler on a sticky track, but the fast riders will, and they will be the winners. John Neary has posted up a lot of video's now, everyone should study them, there is a lot of good info to learn on them. Don't only watch the top riders but watch the ones not going fast to, then ask your self where would be in that pack of riders.

I know where I'd be, in the stands watching. But that's not because of my tire, it's because of my lack of skill. People are winning with this tire, 1st, 2nd, and 4th in the Open class at Pine lake this year. I don't know why you said they aren't winning. I'm curious for next year to see how your setup will work on blue groove tracks. Also, I can understand not running the 350 in open the first time you raced it, but I'm hoping you will run open next year instead of vintage

[atc300r]

The track surface at Paradise this season was super sticky .A soft compound tire there would not work unless they were on a 500.Most of us couldnt slide the corners very well even when the track was wet.Fred Morrell ran lawnmower tires like most of us did.His TPC has about 70 hp.Matt Kemp is very knowledgable he and I talk alot at the races.

[barnett468]

I only read part of this thread and I will tell you that a fancy front tire will usually not make a huge difference to most people . The very best thing one can do is simply learn how to ride faster by practicing more.

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[atc300r]

I would be in the stands aswell.lol

I know where I'd be, in the stands watching. But that's not because of my tire, it's because of my lack of skill. People are winning with this tire, 1st, 2nd, and 4th in the Open class at Pine lake this year. I don't know why you said they aren't winning. I'm curious for next year to see how your setup will work on blue groove tracks. Also, I can understand not running the 350 in open the first time you raced it, but I'm hoping you will run open next year instead of vintage