I've been away...

[fabiodriven]

People always loved to keep it G rated on here but for what? There aren't any children. Our most recent Cody is about as young as they get on here and he's well past the age of swearing. Kid'll probably be dipping his wick any day now. What's this, Walt Disney presents Three Wheeler World? We're all adults here.

[Mosh]

I am tired of typing novels..
So here goes in short quickest statements I can .

Tim Sr was the DON of this website. While this came off as frictional, it was usually from asshole no good morons who wanted to trash this place with pornographic, or lude behavior, and they showed up to trike racing events in the dawn of the trike racing resurgence drunk off their ass, and jeopardized the whole movement at the new racing infancy.
When Tim Sr took a stand on it, the site owner protected the morons and on Tim for his efforts. As a spiteful move to Tim Sr, he was removed as a sight admin more like THE site admin, and his close personal friends were appointed moderators because of their popularity in Ohio Trike racing , closeness with TIM Sr, and more so just to spite TIm sR.
Then his arch enemy raffa at the time, was also appointed moderator. Raffa was a cool dude at the start, but his own agenda to form his own racing crew that went against the OTC crew family and moderated races, drove him in a direction of jealous rage that resulted in multiple fights with the OTC moderators and regular members anf the OTC which ripped this fourm right down the middle.The sight owner's spite, and popularity status, started to over power the desire to keep qualty people in favor of quantity people. That pisses me off...

Then I volunteered to build the TriZ for the giveaway. We agreed I needed more than 6 months to finish the project so I was told by Swinehart and the TF planning crew to take my time and push it til 2013...Then, I hear from friends at TF 2012 that the same supporters were telling people they picked the wrong guy to build the trike and saying I would not get it done, and prematurely calling me a failure, after they told me to take longer cuz it was such a special build. In that time, we were infighting with Raffa over Tim Sr, our tri z plastics, Tammys seats, racing events and he was jealous I was building the blue TRIZ while he was the forums " self appointed tri z god" and I would not let him help me build the z. This enraged Raffa even mote and escalated the attacks to a personal level behind the seens with everything from threats to us and friends to him callig my wife names like cooksvcker and etc.

Billy sat their and protected him and told me and my wife to put up with it. I dont know where in the world anyone with any integrity would recomend a man sit back and let somebody treat their wife of 20 years like that and expect them to not be pissed off. I am really glad much of this transfered over text as I prolly would be in prison by now had much of this be in arms length with these people.

This PISSED me off even morr. Lou tried to help slightly, but more after the fact of all the damage and he wad met with resistance by Billy as well.
Tammy removed raffa as a moderator, Billy ultimately banned him and SR, and his chronies became very pissed at us for it and Billy did as well..Too bad Billy. If you would let someone talk to your wife or mom like that, not limited to the way he was treating forum members in the public, then you have issues...

Then Swinehart who had sold tickets for these trike raffles every year, decided all the sudden, he would not sell mine due the whole Raffa blow up with us I guess, and landed that bag of duty on to me and Billy to sell tickets on top of having to build the damn thing which was never agreed on. It was like John wanted me to fail building it cuz we got raffa demoderated. That is my own speculation. I ultimately turned the trike over as agreed on time, the site owners best friends mom won it, and many people found that shady. I believe it made some people leave and maybe even hurt the whole idea of the raffle in the end.
It was a legit win, but it looked REALLY fishy to most of the unaware public.
Ultimately Billy wanted me booted from moderating for my efforts but did not do it I had my wife remove me on my own request because I knew the personal attacks had taken a toll on me to moderate with fair predjudice...My war with Raffa had taken a personal toll on me and I now focused more on Billy for letting get that far...
In that time Barnett and DoHC bikes joined this forum with a moderate amount of resistance from most of the daily people. They created havoc and ripples that really did not jel with the flock...I felt they needed removed before they chased people away and rooted in a "new forum of followers" that really were too young and niave to know they were being mislead by a couple of guys that never really produced any credentials as to who they were claiming they were. In retrospect I look back and should have just done what was right even against Billys wishes. Then Dohc bikes started to personally attack my wife with threats for us moderating..we have the PMs saved. Once again we were told by Billy to put up with it and do nothing, in the meantime this new " crew " of the basic 10 stirrers you now see here daily, systematically ruined this forum and billy let it happen because he knew it was making me and my wife writhe in pain to sit restrained and watch it happen. Billy gets joy out of watching his enemies suffer even if it destroys him and his friends in the process.
I have him figured out I know his next moves before he does. There is no helping a person that will watch the world burn for his own pride.

That pissed me off..That is why my negativity boils. If Billy would admit his follies, apologize, and let people straighten this place out unimpeded I would go back to the positive poster I used to be.

This is just some of it..All this culminated on Lou as well, he cared for the people that were on, and was friends with everyone involved and just cannot take being pulled 4 ways anymore.
Billy has always been a savy tech guy but he would be far better off to handle the lights and cables backstage and re appoint people that will clean this place back up which it may be too far gone now.

Lets see if billy will leave this and address it like a man or not ig hr chooses..If not I have plenty more to type and to back it up..If need be.
If It gets deleted I will repost or post on the OTC forum for back up and hell maybe I can join facebook too get the story out there. Not like anybody cares, but people need to know. Fvck It I vented..so there it is. There is more..I am pissed at this place because of what it has become, because of billy letting it get that way..and it shows..I am pissed at myself for not doing things different..We spent 10 years trying to offer help, products, positive promotion, get the worf of OTC 3WW out there. Went to dealer shows talking about 3ww, promoting it, talking to vendors about reproducing stuff, spent 1000s of dollars to help the sport and git on for it..It is like a ugly divorce that will nit end...
Nobody's opinion really makes a hill of beans to me anymore. If your opinion is against me your are blind to what we have endured, and what other good people have endured and you are dumb enough to walk into this kind of treatment. Dont say I did not warn you, Tim sr did not warn you, Lou did not warn you.... There is rift after rift for evidence of the foul outcomes. There needs to be someone who cares more for the sport at the top, than caring for thier own adolescent pride and popularity.

[fabiodriven]

Mosh this place and what has happened/does happen here is not up to YOUR liking and does not fit YOUR view of how this site should go. The people YOU don't like are being "allowed" to "ruin" the site in a manner in which YOU don't like. This is not Rob Mosh presents Three Wheeler World. You were and are still a part of this place just as the rest of us, but who gave you or Tim Sr the conductors wand to say what this site should be? If William is the be-all end-all of what gets said and done on here, then tough cookies for you guys. I never understood the G-ratedness of this site. When you're at work with your coworkers and you drop a starter on your toe, do you yell "Oh fiddlesticks!" When you talk about Raffa do you say "That dadgummed snizzle snotter has really buttered my bagel this time!" Do you, or anyone else sit down at your computer with young children on your lap and read the posting on 3WW? Have you had to block your children's eyes as DOHC's insanely damaging words jumped out of the computer monitor and attempted to gouge out your children's eyes?

We are one of next-to-no internet forums who pretend swear words don't exist, and in case anyone forgot, they sure as frig do and you all use them every single friggin day. Do you only watch G-rated movies? Do you run and take cover when someone swears? "Oh my freakin ears!"

Your days of our lives drama, which really should have it's own thread entirely, is very unfortunate for EVERYONE involved, including yourself and Tammy. However to the rest of us it's just he-said she-said (cover your ears) bullshite. It's your side of a ten-sided story and trying to determine who's right in an argument between two people is plenty hard enough, never mind a goat-screw of ten people. Shame on the lot of ya for having such turmoil! Everyone is wrong but you, I'm sure!

As far as Mosh and Tim's view on how William's site should be run, I fail to see why William should be expected to build Mosh and Tim present 3WW. It's his (ears) facking site to do with what he sees fit! I see William once a year and this is just speculation, but I gather he just does not put enough care into this site to effect him personally as a human being on a day-to-day basis, and that's my speculation. I feel as though that's a fantastic attitude to have towards this site. I feel as though William has grown to appreciate free speech and finds that his life is much better if he pets his 3WW every day, but doesn't let it sleep in the bed with him. People such as yourself who want to instill rules and restrictions everywhere, it just reminds me of Nazi Germany. This world has more than enough rules, far too many, and the American people are conditioned now to imply their own rules upon themselves which sickens me! You're all so used to doing what you're told that you actually have taken the controls from those who force all these life rules on you and are now self-policing. Rob this place is barely free anymore, America. In a time when rules and restrictions regularly encroach on everyday life, this site getting more and more free is appreciated by some who do not share YOUR view of how this site should be run. If you like rules and soft words try Catholicism or Christianity or something. They have a shite ton of rules and not much swearing, however they've got a thing for little boys so....

[fabiodriven]

And please Rob, show me even one single piece of pornography on this site. Go ahead and consider that a challenge or consider yourself a liar. Hey what's your feelings on burkas by the way?

[Mosh]

Fabio, you put more personal drama out there than anyone..it is not just about me or tim. There is a ton of you have no idea of..It is not even worth arguing anymore when you have 10% of the knowledge that is needed to make an accurate assessment of what has led up to this point in time to where this forum is today.
I put it out there cuz I am sick of your BS assessment that 1 year has been nothing but negativity and you hae no idea why. Go back in my posts. The last 13 or 10 posts, I came unglued with no longer biting me tongue.
The rest is mucho informative and positive.
Much like me, you only see and respond with what you want to, and that is governed by a chip on each of our shoulders. Your vicous attacks against Dunlap are unbelievable. While I personally think he slams his past credentials around way to hard, at least we know who he is and not some guy that is pushing his weight around without credentials. He is who he is..we know that. But yet you attack him, but people that thug their way around are left to be.

I never wanted nazi germany content. But you are naive to think there are no forums that are clean. They are just filled with cleaner people.
Ask yourself this..
Why is there never been a Dirt wheels prescence at TF?
Why has the movement slowed to a crawl here?
I never saw you, dohc, glamy, barnett, or any of the current residents make molds, donate seats and plastic, or coolheads, or billet clutch baskets and intakes, fly people with cancer to glamis on your own dime, the list goes on. You have helped people that have been scammed, but You just do not have that overflowing participant involvement here anymore. These people are out there but not here..
Why is that? Why is it that 5 years ago all these things got done here, but not anymore. Go back 5 years ago. It was the hieght ot personal fighting on here..Fighting that was left to go on for a few peoples selfish enjoyment...Whose was/is responsible for letting those fights escalate in a public fashion?
fighting that people git sick of being drug into..They left. They dont wanna see it...Its facebook fault isnt it?

Okay yeah thats the issue. It is not facebook is more inviting, but these people at least can pick and choose who and what they see now and who it is from. There are many forums out there that still boom with activity even in the facebook day and age.

So why is there nothing or very little positive going on here anymore? Why?
If its all negative, then the forum operates with primarily negative people..

[Mosh]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...98#post1401998

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...53#post1403653
I said..."lude pornographic...etc etc"
You focus in on one little word out of a book and focus in like a lazer to deflect off the whole picture. Where do we see that go on?
A quick search yields that I never lie..go ahead see for yourself. The only people that praise you are just as igorant as you. There is much more, but I aint wasting anymore time on this nonsense.

And please Rob, show me even one single piece of pornography on this site. Go ahead and consider that a challenge or consider yourself a liar. Hey what's your feelings on burkas by the way?

[fabiodriven]

That's all your perspective Rob, all of it. You don't take my words for what they are. I do not dislike you or your wife or Raffa or Swinehart and I do not care who is right or wrong. I'm not dismissing your end, I'm dismissing the whole thing. I think a lot of people would rather focus on more positive parts of life and don't like the situation either, however they're not living to avenge it. Nobody can move on if not everyone does. I am concerned and if you got burned that's terrible, but there isn't anything I'm going to do about it. It is very unfortunate when people don't get along, yes.

I don't come on 3WW for Dirt Wheels to scout me, I don't know or care who they are. This is my medium, as well as yours, as well as anyone else who posts here. It is free. I like it here. I like the company and the banter and the knowledge. I don't know if Dirt Wheels frequents other forums, do they? Not that I care. I am here for 3WW and that's what this is and many people like it. It's not a popularity contest and I personally don't care how many people are here or on Bookface. I don't like Bookface so I don't go there, that much I know. I don't care who else goes there or comes here. If you're here this is where you belong. If not that's OK as well with me.

Your good will and actions speak for themselves in life. If you're doing good deeds to chock up to some sort of tally to hold against other people then you're doing them for the wrong reasons. I do good things every day. I like doing good deeds, but I don't do them to brag or hold against someone who has done less than I did. If you want to play that game then I'll say you owe me for fighting in a war so now everyone has a safe happy home to live in. I'm not doing that, I'm making an example. Thank you for your good deeds but let them speak for themselves. I keep telling you I like you and there must be reason for that. I don't like people who I'm suspect might not be "good" people.

I'm not going to start talking about my battles with other people on here too much because I already have and this thread isn't about me. I speak up for myself, I defend myself, and I know A LOT about respect. Respect is earned, never given, and especially not given to someone who demands it absolutely without a fight. If someone is going to demand respect from me they had better be able to prove to me why I should respect them. As I've already said, my posting has been in a defensive posture, I am defending myself and not the aggressor. You as well as many others have been blinded or charmed by someone who has a tiny bit of celebrity status and are so drunk off the Kool-Aid you're completely unable to see what is presented in front of your faces. I don't care who this man is, we're all members of this community and the human race. We can all address each other as relative equals which we are on this site. To talk down on others in order to appease one's ego is behavior I will not put up with, or to try and demand a position of elevated stature by force. Force can be stopped in some cases by only one thing, force. When two opposing forces collide it's sometimes not pretty, and I don't aim to cause disturbance, but I will reply to things detrimental to this site, which is something you can relate to. There are many who disagree with me and many who don't, and that's how it will always be regardless of the forces colliding.

Rob if you're telling me that you don't get funny meme texts that are 100 times worse than the pictures Glamy is posting then you, my friend, should not own a computer or a smart phone. We have fun on here. Glamy's little pictures are the same crap everyone is sharing on your coveted bookface every day. One of a multitude of reasons I don't go on Bookface is because crap like that is forced upon me from my news feed, I don't pick what other people post. In this forum I have control over what I view and until I just clicked your links I'd not yet been in that thread once. That's because I saw the subject matter and knew it was nothing I'd be interested in seeing or partaking in. That's a great thing about this place, you're not forced to view anything you don't want to, yet look at all the views from the "worst" threads. But wait, you want higher numbers and more people on here don't you?

[Mosh]

Look I thank veterans with every ounce that I can. Just because people do not enlist does not make them anyless of a defender than people in uniform.

I did not throw contributions out there to be condescending or shove it down people throats. Many of thise examples of generosity where done by other individuals. People that were also used and left to the vultures, however they choose not make thier case but their situations are relevant and often unknown.

Look I dont get the crap on my phone, my friends do not push that crap on me cuz I choose friends with dignity. I enjoy many funny things that actually would be borderline
Unacceptable in most realms of society. However, as a father of a young teenage daughter, and husband of a good woman, I do not appreciate having to worry about looking at a ATV forum, and one them walk by and see negative lude, images like we see posted here from time to time. Is it everywhere on here? Not yet, but if its allowed to let go on it will be. It does not matter about wheter that thread was of interest to you, it was to many and many of them check that stuff at work. If that stuff is gonna be allowed to fly, then there needs to be a NSW&F dedicated for it, so thise that dont want to see it dont have to.
As a man that has not been married or have kids, there is no way you can even understand that.
But many people dont care for it, no matter how much some if your try to push these lude things as mainstream acceptable.

Look You have 2 forum admins and a former moderator in here stating thier displeasure for what is happening here.

You are micro examining small portions of a broder problem here.

[fabiodriven]

Name the admins and the moderator please.

[El Camexican]

Nothing to do with this thread per say, just wanted to let Mosh know I've been reading his posts for over 5 years and I can't think of one with a positive tone. Life is short Dude, take a few minutes to read up on the laws of attraction and the power of positive thought. They work, I can't explain how, but inner peace, money, luck, whatever, it all comes to those most ready to receive it. I'm living proof of it. Yea there are some bumps in the road, like getting burned on a shock, but so what? I can buy another one without skipping a meal. You want a Three Wheeler site with a PG ratting? Start one, its within your power if that's what you want. If you don't think you can do it, or don't want to then why would the content on this one bother you? Look for the silver lining in the clouds, not the lightning bolts.

Carry on.

[3 Wheel Drive]

[fabiodriven]

Nothing to do with this thread per say, just wanted to let Mosh know I've been reading his posts for over 5 years and I can't think of one with a positive tone. Life is short Dude, take a few minutes to read up on the laws of attraction and the power of positive thought. They work, I can't explain how, but inner peace, money, luck, whatever, it all comes to those most ready to receive it. I'm living proof of it. Yea there are some bumps in the road, like getting burned on a shock, but so what? I can buy another one without skipping a meal. You want a Three Wheeler site with a PG ratting? Start one, its within your power if that's what you want. If you don't think you can do it, or don't want to then why would the content on this one bother you? Look for the silver lining in the clouds, not the lightning bolts.

Carry on.

Per se Nico... Lol

I find it amusing, yet not surprising you'd reference the law of attraction Nico. An entire week we spent together, and had plenty of correspondence leading up to that, yet we've never spoken of this. I could very easily turn this into a novel right now but there is no need, as clearly you are already aware Nico.

I cannot emphasize enough how much I agree with Nico's suggestion. The law of attraction is in fact, as the title says, a law. It is not a theory, nor is it magic. It is a law of nature and therefore as real as gravity. I personally owe a lot of what I have to this. I am a living example.

[El Camexican]

Per se Nico... Lol

I find it amusing, yet not surprising you'd reference the law of attraction Nico. An entire week we spent together, and had plenty of correspondence leading up to that, yet we've never spoken of this. I could very easily turn this into a novel right now but there is no need, as clearly you are already aware Nico.

I cannot emphasize enough how much I agree with Nico's suggestion. The law of attraction is in fact, as the title says, a law. It is not a theory, nor is it magic. It is a law of nature and therefore as real as gravity. I personally owe a lot of what I have to this. I am a living example.

There's a lot we never got around to taking about. That place doesn't allow for many long conversations LOL! The Stud and I did have an interesting chat one night though. I wish I could recall the details of it!

[Mosh]

Nothing to do with this thread per say, just wanted to let Mosh know I've been reading his posts for over 5 years and I can't think of one with a positive tone. Life is short Dude, take a few minutes to read up on the laws of attraction and the power of positive thought. They work, I can't explain how, but inner peace, money, luck, whatever, it all comes to those most ready to receive it. I'm living proof of it. Yea there are some bumps in the road, like getting burned on a shock, but so what? I can buy another one without skipping a meal. You want a Three Wheeler site with a PG ratting? Start one, its within your power if that's what you want. If you don't think you can do it, or don't want to then why would the content on this one bother you? Look for the silver lining in the clouds, not the lightning bolts.

Carry on.

My latest started threads consist of riding videos, how to problems , giving away a 3 wheeler, starting positive feedback threads, asking about fellow deer hunting seasons etc etc...I fail to see where I am negative. Once again you all have a chip on your shoulder. As a matter if fact I feel I start more positive atv related threads than the few of you who live to troll me around. Take a look. And aside from the TF 2016 and this latest round of nonsense 13 posts back I have offered content that is mostly helpful or in context of interest. Once again, you guys dont comprehend that which you do not like, and pick one little piece of fly out of a pepper pile and scrutinize it to death instead of seeing the real issue. This is far beyond the rating system of content on this forum at this point. That ship set sale in 07, long...long..before any of you was here...This is pointless. It is like teaching a dumb dog not to in his dinner bowl with you guys. And you fail to see or understand the issue. I saw the good years, long before you guys were here. All you have to base your experiences on are what you have seen in your time and I am telling it is was way better. It is written history but you just wont accept it.
It pisses you all off when I bring that up cuz deep down you know its true and that is why you troll me. I wont feed your appetite no longer.... have your forum the way you want it..I wont be able to change it.

You guys now inhereit that reponsibilty, so lets see how you do.


http://www.3wheelerworld.com/search....rchid=10131209

[fabiodriven]

There`s something else that Nico`s not telling you .....eligible bachelors ........back in the 70`s when i was hanging out in MTY . Mexico i noticed cars loads of Girls cruising around hooting and hollering ! Ask my wife .....whats that and they`re cute too ! She says to me yeah the ratio is 7-1 girls to guys .....i`m all holly sheet i should have come here foist ! Don`t know how it is today ......but i think we should ALL pay Nico a visit !!!!!

If Mosh wasn't there then it wasn't nearly as good as you're making it out to be!