Kate Steinle verdict

[fabiodriven]

I'm reading along but not really following here, more just watching the interaction. There absolutely are t-bone accidents that happen completely by accident. They can be mechanical or human in nature, but there are definitely accidents that are completely accidental.

[fabiodriven]

I don't know if this is what the Dude meant by "hair trigger", but revolvers have two very different trigger pulls depending on if you manually cock the gun or not.

[redsox]

Crashes are crashes. Not "accidents." Two vehicles colliding is a crash. A crash can, and often is, caused by accident. Accident meaning "without intention." Sometimes crashes are not accidents. The issue at hand isn't malice. It doesn't matter if the offender tried or didn't try to crash into (or shoot) anyone. The issue is whether or not a reasonable person knew or should have known that their actions presented an undue risk to others. This is true in crashes as well as shootings. At least it should be. Lets say I live in an apartment above another apartment. Lets say i'm cleaning my gun and I "accidentally" fire the gun into the apartment below and the bullet kills someone. That is an accident, but I am still responsible and will face consequences. The consequences should not be the same as if i set out to shoot someone and follow through by shooting them. The law allows for this by differentiating between degrees of murder as well as manslaughter and negligent homicide. It is also not the same as if I break into a car and fire a gun in public killing someone. Every situation is different, and there are degrees of evil. But the system is a huge failure. This case is a perfect example of how poorly it functions.

[fabiodriven]

But the system is a huge failure. This case is a perfect example of how poorly it functions.

This I will strongly agree with. The system is a flop, a follie, just like a good portion of anything run by the United States government in modern times. It needs to be razed and completely re-thought.

If anyone is interested in seeing a system that works, study Finland's judicial system. Makes discussing our own judicial system seem pointless.

[El Camexican]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.3679745

They're not done with this guy yet.

[sledcrazyinCT]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.3679745

They're not done with this guy yet.

Amazing Jeff Sessions is following up on a crime

[El Camexican]

Amazing Jeff Sessions is following up on a crime

What's interesting to me is how low keyed the story is. Caught a blip on Yahoo News at 6:00am and then had to search for it later. Aside from FOX I doubt it even makes it onto TV today. This guy will end up with his own statue if the CA Libs have their way.

I like this idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74-WSM0xTyE Great way to rub their noses in this for years to come

[sledcrazyinCT]

OMG love the video of the chimpanzee!

[El Camexican]

OMG love the video of the chimpanzee!

Wrong video!!! Wonder if it had a hair trigger??? LMFAO!!!

Here is what I wanted to post: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/0...r-kate-steinle

[Shep1970]

Just to make a quick comment: i have heard absolutly nothing about this on the news up here in mass, mainly just watch it for the weather but yup nothing about this story at all. I'm sure its kept quiet for a reason....

Shep

[barnett468]

Wrong video!!! Wonder if it had a hair trigger??? LMFAO!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74-WSM0xTyE

The chimp video is a bazillion times better, and it even fired off a shot in those idiots direction. That whole scenario is friggen hilarious. It's my vote for best video of the year so far. The only thing I think that might be funnier is yet another long winded, bloviating, 500 word diatribe of rambling drivel from MOSH.


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[El Camexican]

The chimp video is a bazillion times better, and it even fired off a shot in those idiots direction. That whole scenario is friggen hilarious. It's my vote for best video of the year so far.

I'm a monkey fanatic ever since my first trip to India. They open and raid fridges, walk into factories and operate machines, steal glasses, purses and phones and ransom them for fruit etc. Google monkey fights and monkey motorcycles and you will laugh your spleen out your nose.

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Any pistol with a does. Scooter just wants to degrade as that is his method of debate.

I think what Scooter is saying (and he is welcome to correct me if I am misinterpreting his comment) is that no matter how light or heavy the trigger pull is, a firearm in proper mechanical condition requires human manipulation to fire a round, a finger placed on the trigger and pressure applied. This is why the rules of firearm handling are so universally and deadly important. Unless a firearm that has been involved in an accident of some sort is indubitably found to be mechanically deficient or unsafe by at least one competent expert gunsmith, there is absolutely zero excuse for an AD no matter what the circumstances.

[barnett468]

Just to make a quick comment: i have heard absolutly nothing about this on the news up here in mass, mainly just watch it for the weather but yup nothing about this story at all. I'm sure its kept quiet for a reason....

Shep

They aren't keeping it quiet, it is just more of a local story at the moment, plus they just filed charges so you might see something about it soon on your news.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL3BUIPJw2o



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[Shep1970]

There should be a way to send him to a mexican prison if found guilty (Wish it was that easy) What a shame too she was a beautiful girl. I'd like to hear an interview with her family to hear what they have to say about what should be done w/him.
I couldn't imagine loosing a family member in that way especially by someone that shouldn't have been here in the first place. Also deported 5 times holy crap, maybe they should take a body part from u each time you get deported. Is it really that hard to come to work here legally?
The jurors should have been told about his past/ if it was an avg american citizen like me thats the first thing the courts look at is your past records. Not that i really have any, none to mention anyway....
Alright starting to ramble, i'm outta here. But i'll be lurkin'. Ha

Shep