The Bigger Picture

[ironchop]

People say the NRA buys politicians.... please realize what this group spends is chump change compared to the money spent by big pharma to influence lawmakers and doctors.

Look at what prescription drugs have been introduced in recent decades with the known side effects of these drugs...compare what year drugs were introduced to the public and when mass shootings became more frequent. The FDA has warned that there's a slight risk that stimulant ADHD drugs could lead to mood swings or symptoms of psychosis -- like hearing things and paranoia. Stands to reason if a drug can make you suicidal it can also make you snap and decide to go on a shooting spree.

When a drug maker has to list side effects like aggression, confusion, suicidal thoughts, open sores, etc is this stuff we should give a young person unsupervised? The side effects tend to occur more frequently if you go off the drugs suddenly. Maybe if these drugs have to be given to students it needs to be doled out daily by the school nurse. This isn't like taking a vitamin, these drugs are mind altering yet appears many people are given the Rx, or even worse a combination of these Rx, and told to make an appointment with doctor for six months from now for a follow up. Since untreated mental/mood problems (such as depression, panic attacks, obsessive compulsive disorder) can be a serious condition, do not stop taking this medication unless directed by your doctor.

I know millennials that buy Adderal on the black market to use as a study enhancer. Needless to say abuse of these medications is commonplace. Abuse also occurs when children are expected to take unsupervised, or when a doctor decides to administer multiple prescriptions at once on a developing mind. How many people are aware when doctors prescribe newly released drugs they might be doing so just to earn a free vacation! 200 free samples doled out earns a free trip to the Bahamas. Don't believe me go ask a drug rep what incentives are used to roll out new drugs to the masses.

Sure seems like these drugs are powerful and results can be unpredictable -that side effects may vary greatly based on your dosage, personality, other chemicals you currently ingest, and so on. Keep in mind studies have shown a severe amphetamine overdose can result in a stimulant psychosis that may involve a variety of symptoms, such as delusions and paranoia. Same study also notes that psychosis induced by these drugs result in 5–15% of users failing to recover completely after taking these medications!


PROZAC introduced in 1988....unlikely but serious side effects occur: unusual or severe mental/mood changes (such as agitation, unusual high energy/excitement, thoughts of suicide), easy bruising/bleeding, muscle weakness/spasm, shakiness (tremor), decreased interest in sex, changes in sexual ability, unusual weight loss. Get medical help right away if you have any very serious side effects, including: bloody/black/tarry stools, vomit that looks like coffee grounds, fast/irregular heartbeat, fainting, seizures, signs of kidney problems (such as change in the amount of urine), eye pain/swelling/redness, widened pupils, vision changes (such as seeing rainbows around lights at night, blurred vision).


Wellbutrin introduced in 1989.... unlikely but serious side effects occur: mental/mood changes (e.g., agitation, anxiety, confusion, hallucinations, memory loss), uncontrolled movements (tremor), chest pain, fainting, fast/pounding/irregular heartbeat, hearing problems, ringing in the ears, severe headache


Ritalin has been around since 1960, but ADHD was not even a classified disorder until 1980....serious side effects, including: mental/mood/behavior changes (such as agitation, aggression, mood swings, abnormal thoughts,
thoughts of suicide), uncontrolled muscle movements (such as twitching, shaking), sudden outbursts of words/sounds that are hard to control, blurred vision.


Adderall, another drug given for ADHD, widespread use for treatment began in the 1990's. Taking Adderall could cause serious side effects such as mental/mood/behavior changes (such as agitation, aggression, mood swings, depression, abnormal thoughts, thoughts of suicide), uncontrolled movements, continuous chewing movements/teeth grinding, outbursts of words/sounds, signs of blood flow problems in the fingers or toes (such as coldness, numbness, pain, or skin color changes), unusual wounds on the fingers or toes.

Prescription drugs IMO are the unreported link to many of these killing sprees.Because big pharma has a stranglehold on most of our elected officials it is easy for some in Congress to blame guns rather then the FDA approved drugs fed to the public like candy.
Mental health needs more then a pill to treat, our country needs to take a different approach to help the mentally ill. America will not see a decrease in this type of killing until mental health is addressed more responsibly.

My sister was on Ritalin from about 79-98 or so. Her mind is GONE. She has numerous more pressing mental issues now, is frequently homeless, has lost custody of her kids, and I blame the Ritalin. They started her on it when she was 5.

As for drug companies, yeah I can vouch for the payoffs too from the horses mouth. Pharmacist get them also not just docs.

I think that once you warp someone's mind on these meds, then feed them a steady diet of violence in entertainment, give them an overall sense of doom from the 6 o'clock news every night, aggressively market AR15s, and then ignore all his given warning signs, then you're going to get a mass casualty event for sure.

There's a member here who's wife died because she tried to stop taking anxiety meds. This is freaking unbelievably tragic and insane that this is allowed to continue.

I think alot people got loaded on Valiums in the 60s and 70s. My adopted mom was prescribed Valium. These types of meds have been around a very long time now and escape scrutiny for the most part.

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[3 Wheel Drive]

I only read a few of the posts in this thread but I agree shootings are becoming the norm these days. This grandma just turned in her grandson for planning a school shooting at the high school mins from my house.

http://www.king5.com/mobile/article/news/crime/everett-911-call-hes-planning-on-having-a-mass-shooting-at-one-of-the-high-schools/281-518703506

Last year a girl at the same school broke up with her boyfriend, that weekend he showed up to a party and killed as many ppl as he could. I forget the weapon but it was a fire arm. Just another day in the hood,

[Scootertrash]

Mornin' jd!

Maybe I should have said "People who don't accept the info in the video are part of the problem.

I was talking about the content of the video. There are some who brush off talk of indoctrination and propagandizing children as some sort of conspiracy, so I posted the Communist Agenda as evidence. I even know some adults who refuse to accept that the media has an agenda, when it is quite clear by them repeating the same message over and over and over. Attacking the same people over and over, and legitimizing the tactics of BLM, ANTIFA, et all by calling their protests "non-violent" when they are anything but.

The same goes for adults who believe everything they see on the evening news. The media is controlled by Progressive/Left wing organizations. If people could sit down and watch the news without getting brainwashed they would find that these points are constantly promoted by the Media:

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

Observe the tactics of BLM, ANTIFA, etc., then take a look at my siglines

As far as using mind control to further a cause:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-mk-ultra

https://medium.com/@sebastianedward/...e-ad2aa42ba1a4

The above links were random choices, I didn't hand pick anything.

There are some of us that watch the news to keep an eye on the enemy. Always be aware of what's going on around you. Watch your six.

[Scootertrash]

The only problem with pointing the finger at guns OR drugs is that there are thousands of people who use either and/or both that don't commit these crimes. The problem lies with the individual and those around the individuals that exhibit signs and behaviors that should be suspect.

The same individuals that want to restrict the rights of honest law abiding gun owners will tell you you can't violate the rights of the mentally ill.

These are also the same individuals who tell us we can't judge all Muslims by the behavior of a few radicals, but they have no problem judging all gun owners by the actions of a few "radicals"..

Have you ever noticed that all of these shootings take place in "No Gun" zones? Ya ever heard of one at a gun show?

[atctim]

I didn't write this, but I am certain the author is most likely 100% correct. It will never be taken serious, but nonetheless I find it extremely interesting and TRUTH! (NOTE - Explicit Content)

You know we see this tired argument trotted out time and time again, each time bringing us no closer to an answer on school shootings.
It's the guns that are at fault! No, mental illness! Clearly parenting is at fault! No, it's video games! Surely something can and should be done!
Of course the problem will never truly be addressed because the nature of our fem-centric society forbids looking behind the curtain and makes the general populace completely blind to the nature of the shootings. To make it worse, the common thread is right there for you to pull but it's all-but-invisible unless you shed your blue-pill conditioning.
It's always curious to me when society as a whole throws up its hands and declares they do not know what causes senseless crimes such as these and pretends there are no common factors or identifiers that can be seen. It's similar to Scott Adam's analogy, that we're watching two different movies on the same screen. They see random acts of violence that have no cause, no trigger, and therefore no way to stop it other than removing freedoms from all citizens, lest any one of us suddenly become as randomly angry as the last guy was. Watching the conversation unfold, it's as though the gun control nuts themselves aren't sure if they might become a school shooter, so the safe bet is to get rid of all guns!
But I digress, this is not a topic about gun control or medicating children. This is about the REAL cause of school shootings.
There is a common identifier that may clue you in to the nature of school shootings. And it's not hard to see. It is done entirely by male students who have been ostracized and have no sense of belonging... and they don't have girlfriends. They are, by all accounts losers.
It should be painfully obvious to anybody here what's happening but I'll spell it out.
Men only go to extremes like this when they are exceptionally desperate. It's the reason why young sexless virgins are easily recruited into terrorist organizations with promises of sex with virgins when they die. It's the reason why you don't see Chad from the football team that gets his knob slobbered on by a different cheerleader each night stocking up on guns to teach other students a lesson.
Why are these boys so upset?
Factor number one is probably poor social skills, perhaps no father figure to teach them. Couple that with some level of autism or physical malady, or maybe just an ugly face. They get shunned by the popular kids and girls, forever hopeless and forever alone.
Of course at that age you don't exactly have a roadmap to direct you where to go. Many of us relied on fathers to explain to us what matters in life and how to navigate social hurdles. But in today's culture of unbridled hypergamy, there are record amounts of public and direct hatred and lack of sympathy for male losers. It's not that women fail to understand the male plight, it's that they openly mock it. Meanwhile mainstream media does its best to delegitimize the actual issues these boys face.
Elliot Rodger comes to mind when looking at the full picture. A sexless autistic kid desperate for female attention but with zero understanding and know-how to make it a reality. So angry he was that the Disney fairytale of "be a nice guy" didn't work that he lamented both the popular kids as well as pick up artists who claim to have the secret, as neither fit into his narrow world-view. Of course, when the evidence doesn't match your belief, some might consider re-examining their beliefs. But you throw in a case of autism, raging hormones, and lack of father figures and you might just have a ticking time bomb on your hands instead.
Gunning to ignore the male plight, the mainstream news painted him as a red-pill misogynist, reporting that he murdered girls because he hated them so much. Of course, the news downplayed the fact that he killed more men than women, or that he did so because of jealousy and rage that they should be so lucky to experience female validation that he so desperately craved. No, this was simply misogyny at play, nothing more, nothing less. No mention that he hated pickup and red pill. He was a member at PUAHate, a site dedicated to disagreeing with us.
The collective response was "no wonder women didn't like him, what a loser!" This was the country, banding together under the banner of the fempire, sticking out their collective tongues and doubling down on their open disgust of males and their stupid vulnerabilities and needs. A response so tone deaf that I'm surprised some women didn't simply load his weapons for him.
Now, at TRP we preach personal responsibility, and I'm absolutely not saying these boys are not at fault for what they do. I'm a strong believer in personal responsibility. But that doesn't mean you can't identify trends. And a trend school shootings have become.
Do mental illnesses play into the outcomes? For sure they do. But you don't see every emotionally disturbed teen shooting up a school. You don't see teens with girlfriends doing so either.
The real reason for school shootings is because boys have been raised as the enemy by a society that hates maleness. These boys never learn how to become men from role models that don't exist, and fathers who have either given up or have legally been told to stay away.
And I don't see this trend of extremism changing until our culture changes its attitude towards men and boys. But the femtrain is a strong force and I don't see it slowing down, so I won't hold my breath. But if anybody wants the real reason to the meaningless murders, you don't have to look any further.
As for prevention, here's an idea- an inoculation against school shootings if you will. Get the cheerleading team together and simply give blowjobs to the losers in your class. Do it once a year, and finally once again at graduation. Though I jest in suggesting this, I would put my life savings on a prediction that student bodies that participated in this would have a 0% school shooting rate. As impossible as this sort of policy would be, it would completely solve the question that all those experts haven't been able to answer.
And it should shed some light on the male condition. Even a blowjob from somebody who barely tolerates your existence, and the promise of a future one would be enough to change the mind of a would-be mass murderer. Hell, downgrade blow job to simply hand holding and I bet you'd get similar results. - a phone call now and again would probably be it for 90% of these guys.
Hell, a guy in the desert would drink piss.

[ironchop]

I didn't write this, but I am certain the author is most likely 100% correct. It will never be taken serious, but nonetheless I find it extremely interesting and TRUTH! (NOTE - Explicit Content)

You know we see this tired argument trotted out time and time again, each time bringing us no closer to an answer on school shootings.
It's the guns that are at fault! No, mental illness! Clearly parenting is at fault! No, it's video games! Surely something can and should be done!
Of course the problem will never truly be addressed because the nature of our fem-centric society forbids looking behind the curtain and makes the general populace completely blind to the nature of the shootings. To make it worse, the common thread is right there for you to pull but it's all-but-invisible unless you shed your blue-pill conditioning.
It's always curious to me when society as a whole throws up its hands and declares they do not know what causes senseless crimes such as these and pretends there are no common factors or identifiers that can be seen. It's similar to Scott Adam's analogy, that we're watching two different movies on the same screen. They see random acts of violence that have no cause, no trigger, and therefore no way to stop it other than removing freedoms from all citizens, lest any one of us suddenly become as randomly angry as the last guy was. Watching the conversation unfold, it's as though the gun control nuts themselves aren't sure if they might become a school shooter, so the safe bet is to get rid of all guns!
But I digress, this is not a topic about gun control or medicating children. This is about the REAL cause of school shootings.
There is a common identifier that may clue you in to the nature of school shootings. And it's not hard to see. It is done entirely by male students who have been ostracized and have no sense of belonging... and they don't have girlfriends. They are, by all accounts losers.
It should be painfully obvious to anybody here what's happening but I'll spell it out.
Men only go to extremes like this when they are exceptionally desperate. It's the reason why young sexless virgins are easily recruited into terrorist organizations with promises of sex with virgins when they die. It's the reason why you don't see Chad from the football team that gets his knob slobbered on by a different cheerleader each night stocking up on guns to teach other students a lesson.
Why are these boys so upset?
Factor number one is probably poor social skills, perhaps no father figure to teach them. Couple that with some level of autism or physical malady, or maybe just an ugly face. They get shunned by the popular kids and girls, forever hopeless and forever alone.
Of course at that age you don't exactly have a roadmap to direct you where to go. Many of us relied on fathers to explain to us what matters in life and how to navigate social hurdles. But in today's culture of unbridled hypergamy, there are record amounts of public and direct hatred and lack of sympathy for male losers. It's not that women fail to understand the male plight, it's that they openly mock it. Meanwhile mainstream media does its best to delegitimize the actual issues these boys face.
Elliot Rodger comes to mind when looking at the full picture. A sexless autistic kid desperate for female attention but with zero understanding and know-how to make it a reality. So angry he was that the Disney fairytale of "be a nice guy" didn't work that he lamented both the popular kids as well as pick up artists who claim to have the secret, as neither fit into his narrow world-view. Of course, when the evidence doesn't match your belief, some might consider re-examining their beliefs. But you throw in a case of autism, raging hormones, and lack of father figures and you might just have a ticking time bomb on your hands instead.
Gunning to ignore the male plight, the mainstream news painted him as a red-pill misogynist, reporting that he murdered girls because he hated them so much. Of course, the news downplayed the fact that he killed more men than women, or that he did so because of jealousy and rage that they should be so lucky to experience female validation that he so desperately craved. No, this was simply misogyny at play, nothing more, nothing less. No mention that he hated pickup and red pill. He was a member at PUAHate, a site dedicated to disagreeing with us.
The collective response was "no wonder women didn't like him, what a loser!" This was the country, banding together under the banner of the fempire, sticking out their collective tongues and doubling down on their open disgust of males and their stupid vulnerabilities and needs. A response so tone deaf that I'm surprised some women didn't simply load his weapons for him.
Now, at TRP we preach personal responsibility, and I'm absolutely not saying these boys are not at fault for what they do. I'm a strong believer in personal responsibility. But that doesn't mean you can't identify trends. And a trend school shootings have become.
Do mental illnesses play into the outcomes? For sure they do. But you don't see every emotionally disturbed teen shooting up a school. You don't see teens with girlfriends doing so either.
The real reason for school shootings is because boys have been raised as the enemy by a society that hates maleness. These boys never learn how to become men from role models that don't exist, and fathers who have either given up or have legally been told to stay away.
And I don't see this trend of extremism changing until our culture changes its attitude towards men and boys. But the femtrain is a strong force and I don't see it slowing down, so I won't hold my breath. But if anybody wants the real reason to the meaningless murders, you don't have to look any further.
As for prevention, here's an idea- an inoculation against school shootings if you will. Get the cheerleading team together and simply give blowjobs to the losers in your class. Do it once a year, and finally once again at graduation. Though I jest in suggesting this, I would put my life savings on a prediction that student bodies that participated in this would have a 0% school shooting rate. As impossible as this sort of policy would be, it would completely solve the question that all those experts haven't been able to answer.
And it should shed some light on the male condition. Even a blowjob from somebody who barely tolerates your existence, and the promise of a future one would be enough to change the mind of a would-be mass murderer. Hell, downgrade blow job to simply hand holding and I bet you'd get similar results. - a phone call now and again would probably be it for 90% of these guys.
Hell, a guy in the desert would drink piss.

Ha! Great post!

I can't comment on if sexual favors would work. I was busy chasing tail instead of loading guns at those ages so maybe you're right.

Are you a fan of Jack Donovan? The Way of Men? A Sky without Eagles? Becoming a barbarian? The tactical Virtues?

I eat redpills for breakfast

I used to read ROK alot but got into Jack Donovan more as time went on (Donovan gets flack for being gay but I swear he has a better command of masculinity than ALOT of "men")

I was about to post something similar to what you said above.....we can narrow this down to being a strictly MALE problem which is where we can draw clues. White males shoot up crowds of people and black males have their own history with gun violence too though a bit different in application but still a general lack of Hope and compassion.

It's obviously a masculinity and fathering issue

Thanks for that Tim

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[atctim]

I have not heard of Jack Donovan, But ROK and Roosh V I am a fan of. I am big into Redpill - have been for about 3 years now. It helps me understand both women and society better when you actually know what most don't - it makes things that never made sense, - make sense. I am almost done reading "The Rational Male" By Rollo Tomassi - but it is all pretty much what I have already read and taken from other sources. There is a Redpill thread about 3600 pages deep on an Adventure Bike website I have been the whole way through. Redpill just makes so much sense, and the movement is growing by leaps and bounds as our society is pushing men out and hating them and hating masculinity. Men are being feminized by the Western World and it really is bad for everyone. The Feminists are shooting themselves in the foot and don't realize it yet. I feel that my above post is truly the elephant in the room no one sees! Glad to see other "Redpill'ers" out there. Makes sense - just another reason we are always on the "same page" I-Chop.

[ironchop]

I have not heard of Jack Donovan, But ROK and Roosh V I am a fan of. I am big into Redpill - have been for about 3 years now. It helps me understand both women and society better when you actually know what most don't - it makes things that never made sense, - make sense. I am almost done reading "The Rational Male" By Rollo Tomassi - but it is all pretty much what I have already read and taken from other sources. There is a Redpill thread about 3600 pages deep on an Adventure Bike website I have been the whole way through. Redpill just makes so much sense, and the movement is growing by leaps and bounds as our society is pushing men out and hating them and hating masculinity. Men are being feminized by the Western World and it really is bad for everyone. The Feminists are shooting themselves in the foot and don't realize it yet. I feel that my above post is truly the elephant in the room no one sees! Glad to see other "Redpill'ers" out there. Makes sense - just another reason we are always on the "same page" I-Chop.

Yeah I threw in a half a redpill above where I mentioned that single moms are deified in American culture.

We need another thread on this subject

https://youtu.be/i-JWqHlKpU8

https://youtu.be/C5AQIVH-EI0


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[atctim]

We should start a new thread on "Redpill" on this site. It's one of the places I feel I can comment on subjects such as this without a bunch of whining babies telling me how they feel, and why my beliefs are wrong because of feeeeeelings. Logic be damned!

[Scootertrash]

I think more of this is a big part of the solution:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/19/te...-on-the-floor/

[fabiodriven]

I didn't write this, but I am certain the author is most likely 100% correct. It will never be taken serious, but nonetheless I find it extremely interesting and TRUTH! (NOTE - Explicit Content)

You know we see this tired argument trotted out time and time again, each time bringing us no closer to an answer on school shootings.
It's the guns that are at fault! No, mental illness! Clearly parenting is at fault! No, it's video games! Surely something can and should be done!
Of course the problem will never truly be addressed because the nature of our fem-centric society forbids looking behind the curtain and makes the general populace completely blind to the nature of the shootings. To make it worse, the common thread is right there for you to pull but it's all-but-invisible unless you shed your blue-pill conditioning.
It's always curious to me when society as a whole throws up its hands and declares they do not know what causes senseless crimes such as these and pretends there are no common factors or identifiers that can be seen. It's similar to Scott Adam's analogy, that we're watching two different movies on the same screen. They see random acts of violence that have no cause, no trigger, and therefore no way to stop it other than removing freedoms from all citizens, lest any one of us suddenly become as randomly angry as the last guy was. Watching the conversation unfold, it's as though the gun control nuts themselves aren't sure if they might become a school shooter, so the safe bet is to get rid of all guns!
But I digress, this is not a topic about gun control or medicating children. This is about the REAL cause of school shootings.
There is a common identifier that may clue you in to the nature of school shootings. And it's not hard to see. It is done entirely by male students who have been ostracized and have no sense of belonging... and they don't have girlfriends. They are, by all accounts losers.
It should be painfully obvious to anybody here what's happening but I'll spell it out.
Men only go to extremes like this when they are exceptionally desperate. It's the reason why young sexless virgins are easily recruited into terrorist organizations with promises of sex with virgins when they die. It's the reason why you don't see Chad from the football team that gets his knob slobbered on by a different cheerleader each night stocking up on guns to teach other students a lesson.
Why are these boys so upset?
Factor number one is probably poor social skills, perhaps no father figure to teach them. Couple that with some level of autism or physical malady, or maybe just an ugly face. They get shunned by the popular kids and girls, forever hopeless and forever alone.
Of course at that age you don't exactly have a roadmap to direct you where to go. Many of us relied on fathers to explain to us what matters in life and how to navigate social hurdles. But in today's culture of unbridled hypergamy, there are record amounts of public and direct hatred and lack of sympathy for male losers. It's not that women fail to understand the male plight, it's that they openly mock it. Meanwhile mainstream media does its best to delegitimize the actual issues these boys face.
Elliot Rodger comes to mind when looking at the full picture. A sexless autistic kid desperate for female attention but with zero understanding and know-how to make it a reality. So angry he was that the Disney fairytale of "be a nice guy" didn't work that he lamented both the popular kids as well as pick up artists who claim to have the secret, as neither fit into his narrow world-view. Of course, when the evidence doesn't match your belief, some might consider re-examining their beliefs. But you throw in a case of autism, raging hormones, and lack of father figures and you might just have a ticking time bomb on your hands instead.
Gunning to ignore the male plight, the mainstream news painted him as a red-pill misogynist, reporting that he murdered girls because he hated them so much. Of course, the news downplayed the fact that he killed more men than women, or that he did so because of jealousy and rage that they should be so lucky to experience female validation that he so desperately craved. No, this was simply misogyny at play, nothing more, nothing less. No mention that he hated pickup and red pill. He was a member at PUAHate, a site dedicated to disagreeing with us.
The collective response was "no wonder women didn't like him, what a loser!" This was the country, banding together under the banner of the fempire, sticking out their collective tongues and doubling down on their open disgust of males and their stupid vulnerabilities and needs. A response so tone deaf that I'm surprised some women didn't simply load his weapons for him.
Now, at TRP we preach personal responsibility, and I'm absolutely not saying these boys are not at fault for what they do. I'm a strong believer in personal responsibility. But that doesn't mean you can't identify trends. And a trend school shootings have become.
Do mental illnesses play into the outcomes? For sure they do. But you don't see every emotionally disturbed teen shooting up a school. You don't see teens with girlfriends doing so either.
The real reason for school shootings is because boys have been raised as the enemy by a society that hates maleness. These boys never learn how to become men from role models that don't exist, and fathers who have either given up or have legally been told to stay away.
And I don't see this trend of extremism changing until our culture changes its attitude towards men and boys. But the femtrain is a strong force and I don't see it slowing down, so I won't hold my breath. But if anybody wants the real reason to the meaningless murders, you don't have to look any further.
As for prevention, here's an idea- an inoculation against school shootings if you will. Get the cheerleading team together and simply give blowjobs to the losers in your class. Do it once a year, and finally once again at graduation. Though I jest in suggesting this, I would put my life savings on a prediction that student bodies that participated in this would have a 0% school shooting rate. As impossible as this sort of policy would be, it would completely solve the question that all those experts haven't been able to answer.
And it should shed some light on the male condition. Even a blowjob from somebody who barely tolerates your existence, and the promise of a future one would be enough to change the mind of a would-be mass murderer. Hell, downgrade blow job to simply hand holding and I bet you'd get similar results. - a phone call now and again would probably be it for 90% of these guys.
Hell, a guy in the desert would drink piss.

Now this I can really speak to from my own personal life experience.

As a person very well versed in mental illness, I was absolutely blown away by the simple theory set forth in those words. Now I can in no way relate to anyone who wants to express their pain outwardly, as I feel the exact pain described in this post, but the big difference is that I direct my pain inward at myself. I see no need to cause pain and suffering to others intentionally, however my mental "cage" which contains things others should never have to deal with does develop leaks from time to time and unfortunately unintended targets do end up as collateral damage. Unfortunately people who know me well can attest to this fact (sorry Dan, Swatland, Nico, Scooter, Weezy, and everyone friggin else, I do my best to maintain). Now should the contents of this mind be unleashed in the fashion we see others express themselves from time to time, ungodly results would be what we would see. I understand a lot about psychology and the human psyche, I've spoken to quite a few experts in the field over the years it's been apparent I have a problem, and without failure every single one of them has asked me if I studied in the field and more than one of them have suggested that I work in it. I am incredibly self aware, which I tend to think gains me no ground in maintaining a level head, however I don't know any way other than the way I am, so the world will never know if I could potentially be worse off if I weren't so aware. Although I might go ahead and say I have moments where my awareness has called in for the week or the month and maybe those would be the times I end up at odds with others.

That being said, on the subject of loser kids feening for love having severe side effects due to their lack of intimacy with others, I am walking, talking proof of this. I was an outcast from 7th grade on up. I was just like every other kid in elementary school, but on the first day of Jr high I found out that I was very quickly an unpopular fellow. Almost all of my old friends wouldn't so much as look at me anymore, except for my really close friends. Even some of them wouldn't acknowledge me in the company of others. I was the furthest thing you could possibly be from finding a girl to spend time with and high school was very, very difficult for me. Everyone picked on me, including the girls. It was quite terrible.

My friends had no problems at all finding girls and I always wanted to, but it wasn't even worth trying. Even in the company of my true close friends, when the topic of girls came up I was always told that I should "lower my expectations". Why? Because I'm ugly? Because I don't deserve what you're able to obtain for some reason? People don't give a reason when they tell you that, even if you ask them why it is that you should lower your expectations. Nobody is ever expecting you to ask them that.

I once approached a girl in the grocery store who didn't go to our school, she's beautiful, I still know her. She was nice and I got her number and we started hanging out, I was impressed with myself, briefly. She then proceeded to sleep with quite literally everyone I knew (including one girl), but never any action for me. That was a great feeling.

My name, Fabio, is actually derived from a sarcastic joke. I was deemed Fabio by my friend's Italian uncle who loved to point out how ugly I was. It wouldn't have mattered if I didn't like the name, it stuck like glue from the first time he said it. The "driven" part was added on later when Pantera released "Far Beyond Driven". I was more commonly known as Fabio though.

It wasn't until I was 19 that I found a girl. I love what I love about women, and I love beautiful women. I'll be alone before I pretend to be attracted to someone I'm not, it's simply just not an option for me to fake it. I got my first kiss from this young lady and we started dating, and we subsequently gave each other our virginity. That's the pinnacle of beauty in nature if you ask me. We dated for a few months until I frigged it up then life went on. When I was 23 or 24 I scored a grand slam when I started dating an absolute sa-mokeshow, just drop dead gorgeous girl. She was so much more than just looks though, she was everything. Everyone I knew was eating their words. Five years of that until my issues from war caused an end to that, and I wanted to die. Love is unfortunately almost essential to me and I spent a solid hour pacing in my back yard at that time with my 357 in hand. I thought that was it, I'd never be able to do it again because it was so hard for me to obtain that time.

Roughly two years later I was able to come through again when I landed "that one girl" from my home town if you could pick just one, it was like a dream. Another absolute knock out. Unfortunately her mental issues are very tough and she walks the earth leaving a trail of destroyed men behind her due to her awful upbringing. These are the people who feel as though for some reason others need to feel the pain they do. People talk about suicidal people as if killing one's self is the most selfish thing one could do, however it's difficult to carry things around in your head every day that cannot be shut off. Suffering is no fun, but I see no reason to express that outwardly.

As I find it difficult to get a connection from any woman who interests me from the opposite sex, some 20+ years after I'd been told I don't deserve to have a woman I desire, my biggest obstacle in my way is me. It's all in my head, ingrained in my formative years when I was my most impressionable, into something I now "know" so truly that to this day I cannot believe anything otherwise. It fills me with a hopelessness so complete and sucks every ounce of self value me to the point I don't even try anymore. I defeat myself.

If I happened to be told otherwise or if I'd been accepted by the other kids growing up, but if ifs and buts were candy and nuts...

My whole point in sharing this is to bolster the point in this man's words. He is unequivocally correct. With what's in my head, if I were the type to express my frustrations outwardly then you could end up with a very unfortunate situation. I think the reason so many people express themselves outwardly with these atrocities is their inability to accept their own shortcomings therefore blaming the rest of the world in certain cases, but I do think sometimes maybe the rest of the world is to blame. As stated somewhere, being a loser is bad enough, leave us be please, but the salt in the wound is when you're kicked while you're down. I am very hard on myself for my shortcomings, but other people will actually celebrate your falling down and dance on your grave. They get something out of that, but they might have to answer for that someday. There is a give and take in this universe. My friends would make fun of me for not having girls and the girls that didn't want to be with me would make fun of me as well, on top of whatever hell I'm already giving myself. That's a lot to deal with and that will bring a man to his breaking point. My last girlfriend had to torture me on her way out, and there was no basis for retribution, I'd done nothing wrong. She knew me inside and out and knew what she could do to hurt me the most. Some men just want to watch the world burn (or women in this case).

Selflessness was actually taught to us in the army ad nauseum. That is likely why you see so many veteran suicides as opposed to veteran mass shootings. We are programmed to be selfless. These shite kids are just the opposite. They are selfish. Greedy, outwardly unkind, and unwilling to accept blame for anything at all they've done. You ever notice when you get someone into a corner and try to get them to admit something, they'll either come clean or say "well Steve helped me", immediately placing blame on someone else besides themselves? I don't care what someone else did, I'm talking to you. I'll talk to Steve later. Why would they even bring up someone else's name? What do they stand to gain from that? You either did something or you didn't, and you can own it if you did. You should. Passing blame when it doesn't even help your circumstances is the inability to admit one is wrong, and we're all wrong from time to time. There's nothing wrong with making mistakes sometimes.

Just as another tidbit to add, I was also brought to the gun range from a very young age, and shooting other people outside of a war zone was and has never been an option for me. It's never even crossed my mind. That's likely because I was taught the right way.

I hope I've gotten my intended point across, that this man makes an extremely valid point. I do not see any chance in changing things though, as we're already circling the drain. It's too late. People have mastered thy selfie, but very few work on mastering thyself. Almost every woman I encounter now takes an obnoxious amount of selfies, that's all they do. We're taught that everyone should look like Barbie and Ken and if you don't you're out of the loop. Bad enough not being accepted, but you can expect to be mocked instead of just left alone with your misery. This man has defined my misery possibly better than I've been able to. Seriously though, it's not going to stop. With technology and so many forms of social media, the only form of dating being via the internet, I still maintain we're up shite creek.

This has been depressing. I've been thinking about this post all day, I feel like I'm forgetting something though. I don't know. Basically life is tough, get a helmet. "The best country on the planet."

[fabiodriven]

I just wanted to add, love is all I need. They say one must love themselves before anyone else will love them which makes perfect sense to me, but I'm in extenuating circumstances I feel. Love is the most important thing in life to me, and I've gone years without it. It seems so simple, I see others in love all the time, but it has proven so elusive to me. I have everything else in life, things others find so difficult to obtain, but none of it matters. I could be well tomorrow if the right person entered my life. It's likely that simplicity which makes my goal so difficult to obtain for some reason. It's also that simplicity which tells me that I am destined to remain this way, because it really shouldn't be this difficult.

If there are parallels between this mentally ill person (me) and those who commit atrocities, maybe love would help them as well. It seems extremely likely to me. We both share in lack of love being our undoings if I am indeed correct in that assertion, and I tend to think I am.

[Scootertrash]

Thanks for the insight from the perspective of someone who has experienced what you have.



On a semi related note:

Do you know why Barbie never got pregnant?



















Because Ken always came in a different box.

[sledcrazyinCT]

Most of you are concerned about North Korea or possibly Russia. You know what scares me? America. America scares me because it is FUBAR, I feel there is no repairing it.

We are living in a nation of dumbed down people who are herded by politicians in a broken system who care for money and themselves and have zero concern about the people they are supposed to be representing.

Here is how your government works in this day and age. It is run by the greedy, for the greedy.

Isn't it amazing how many politicians end up wealthy on usually what's a rather paltry income? Does anyone else ever wonder why or how that is? Does anyone care a huge amount of politicians sell away our rights every single day?

Our country is sick, I feel it's beyond repair. Your vote is a waste of time, I should spit on my ballot and stomp on it with my combat boots soiled from defending my constitution (under false pretense). And here I go down talking the country that pays for my existence. THAT'S RIGHT, because I'm not being bribed. I'm being compensated and it's compensation that I've earned, so shut the up. "Vote them out", right? OK and what, vote the next crooked politician in? Someone "new and different" right? I've got news for you, there's no such thing in this country. There's a long line of greedy people just itching to take the seat of the pig before them. Elections are a giant smear campaign of lies and disgrace, which is fitting to sit on the throne and be the first to inform the flock of what they're going to believe today.

I lump all politicians together. I'm not a fan of cheeto head but Hillary? It speaks volumes to me that she would get as far as she has in life, that there are actually people out there who would support and believe such a wretched person. Her eyes say it all, every word out of her mouth is pure bullshit. It's absolutely stifling to me that fewer people were able to see. I know someone from Arkansas who worked on the governor's detail, probably in the 80's or thereabouts. They knew the Clintons very well, and she's exactly what you think she is. It's scary to me that someone could get so far being who. she is, but it's not at all surprising. Drain the swamp, ha! How about bulldoze Washington? How dare I, right? It's called being a patriot, I call em as I see em, and you can't see em but I'm calling em anyways. Maybe someday people will wake up but I don't think so. I think we're frigged, and that's the bigger picture Chop. I think none of that horse shite matters anymore because we are too far gone

Don't think you are alone regarding your opinion of D.C.

Cross Partisan political group With Honor focuses on Vets that are running for office......IMO we need more lawmakers with a veteran's perspective. Maybe their insight would help blend 2nd amendment rights, public safety, and awareness for responsible gun use.

“We salute them for their willingness to serve our nation again in a time when the number of veterans in Congress is at a record low,” Barcott added. “It is not easy, especially in this environment of shutdowns, partisan entrenchment, and skyrocketing costs to run for office.”

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...3-68d3c0110002

[fabiodriven]

I see where you're going with this. "President Fabio"... It does have a rather nice ring to it.