The Red Pill Thread

[atctim]

This might actually be a better article - the source of it is a fine red Pill source with hard facts:

https://therationalmale.com/2018/01/...isconceptions/

[ironchop]

AWALT

All Women Are like That

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[ironchop]

I think Hypergamy is probably the most important thing for men to accept about women. I know it was the single hardest aspect of Red Pill for me to accept and then deprogram myself from those fallacies and the mythical perfect "good woman" that isn't burdened with her own Hypergamy.

I'm still trying to fully unlearn those programmed misconceptions and that fairy tale nonsense. I'm not even sure where men learned that crap. It's not like we didn't have warning signs.

For example: the romantic comedies that are marketed to women ALWAYS contain some physically hot male lead from any station in life at all and usually not from the top 1% economic/social station except for the extreme fairy tales where say, the hot maid or prostitute scores the hot rich guy. The rest of the time, station isn't exactly the focus at all but physical appearance is. Alpha F*cks.....I think this formula is popular with women because it's fundamentally true for them. Masculine and physically attractive men get first run even when they deliver pizza for a living. The tweet I posted above where the monkey branch girl said it was good Meghan Mackerel left her first husband because now she's married to a prince is a perfect expression of Hypergamy and the female self awareness of this condition.

On the flip, men are marketed Blue Pill crap such as the TV show Big Bang Theory and others where the nice intelligent, thoughtful guy, a beta in waiting, eventually scores the very high SMV chick through perseverance and because she finally realized what a dandy little catch he truly is. This is selling a lie and false hope to alot of beta males that if you wait long enough and keep up your beta ways, that eventually you'll become sexy to her when she suddenly gains agency and stops sleeping around so much and starts plotting long term. The truth, I think, is that long term pragmatism in mating for women only occurs to them once their SMV starts slipping and like a game of musical chairs, they don't want to be the one still standing when the music stops. Betas think they can outwait the hot chick so they cling for as long as they feel they have to. Betas in waiting are Masters of Patience.

The eighties hit Pretty in Pink was much more realistic in it's nuance. The lead female characters is "virtuous" and is waiting for "the one" and in the meantime, Duckie her best friend guy who is crushing on her and the epitome of Beta tries to White Knight his way into her dreams but instead she falls for that rich kid douche "who turns out to be misunderstood and not just trying to wreck muh hymen after all but really respects me".... Which is her way of talking herself into making poor mating choices by telling herself lies that she knows are lies. In the end, the beta in waiting guy is SO smitten with her that he actually HELPS the other guy get a shot at wrecking the Red Carpet...Afterwards she decides to bail on the awkward Beta best friend at prom for the Alpha in a trendy white suit with a Porsche. This is something else that I've noticed can happen sometimes when a man is so blinded by pretty girl that he doesn't even realize that he's being manipulated and therefore losing his bid to mate with the dream girl. She turns the beta string-along in to some sort of wingman to help her get laid. Then, he's just so beta that he lets it happen without protest and tries to move on or even maintain the relationship afterwards (clinging) with the girl who insulted him because she can't help that she's not attracted to him.

Of course, the movie didn't want to alienate all those "nice guys" in the audience so at the end, PiP threw those guys a bone with the scene where he encourages the hot ginger virgin to go submit to the Alpha rich kid and then suddenly another girl, with a lower SMV than Ringwald, winks at Beta boy and motions him over proving that "there's a girl for every guy, beta, don't be sad."...."when one door closes......" Reinforcing beta behavior and teaching betas to "know your place and rank and accept it".

It's also why men don't understand how their marriage failed. Why we don't understand womens motives, why they cheat, why they string us along, why they aren't attracted to betas. We're not even self aware about the real reasons any of them were attracted to us to begin with if they were.

We've been conditioned to believe that once the score is made, we're safe and sound and banging like rabbits for life because she has ultimately chosen us and will not allow herself to be attracted to another man no matter the circumstances....."assumed agency" .... Another falsehood.

Complacency happens next and then she gets bored and wandering eyes because her man wrongly thought the games were over after a commitment was made and sealed with money in the form of a ring.

Next thing you know, she's bounced out on you or emotionally cheating on you and you think it's because (he) has a bigger dick than you since you make four times his salary and you two have kids together which should have earned you a little loyalty...... Well it doesn't.

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[83ATC185]

This thread has taught me a lot of things about myself that no one ever told me. Like what do women want?
They want the guy that they think can and will pull any and all pink in the room, all to herself. That's what they want. And when the guy they're with quits being that, on to the next.

[ironchop]

...... Like what do women want?
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I'm not sure if RedPill can answer that question definitively because that goalpost is always moving. Some of what I get from it all is understanding female motives and that reproductive biology plays a huge part in their motivation just like we have. I also learned that my early mythical perceptions of women were the cause of my past failures with them. Once I understood that her motive is fixed and constant, I could recognize the sh*t tests easier because I wasn't hung up wondering what her problem was (or mine too an extent).... (You got a gun to your head. It's no time to worry about why the person holding it is mad at you in the first place, but rather how to dodge the bullets).

......They want the guy that they think can and will pull any and all pink in the room, all to herself. That's what they want. And when the guy they're with quits being that, on to the next

Yeah I'm glad you mentioned that....That's all relative, because different women find different things attractive in a man's physical appearance. I know that my wife has a particular "type" she's hot for and I know you could put twin attractive men in front of her with identical looks and physique and her choice will have alot to do with his attire. Not just the quality or fashionability of the attire itself but more along the lines of what she thinks it says about the guy wearing it based on her own stereotypes. She's going for rugged and attractive lumberjack guy over the hipster dressed as such and identically attractive. This can't be said for all women though, since some like the hipster dressed guy over what they would consider a redneck slob that "needs work"... Although I must add that women are willing to "dress up bums" if they have to when there are no other physically appealing choices in the immediate vicinity. I wonder if that's why "makeover my husband/dad" shows are so popular

I agree with you that she wants the guy in the room who could score all the others if he wanted to but what type of guy that is can't be easily pinned down because what she thinks is the hottest alpha may not be the hottest alpha to a different woman

Then again, I may just be full of shyte.

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[atctim]

great posts guys - great for thought and learning.

Women don't even know what they want, because when they get "what they want" they then want something else - this is not just pertaining to men, but houses, cars - pretty much anything material. The answer to "what women want" can never be answered because it is a dynamic "want" thing.

[83ATC185]

I guess a better question would be "how does "what women want" compare with "what women need"?"

Unrelated, but interesting phenomenon I've had happen quite a few times in the past. Say you're out at a social function, like a bar or party or something, you're there with your wife but she's elsewhere (hopefully at the bar getting you a drink ) and you strike up a conversation with the woman next to you who is also alone, and you have no sexual interest in said woman, so you make small talk on a purely friendly basis, and you come to a small disagreement over the pettiest of petties, and she scoffs at you and walks away. And it's only then do you realize "she thought i was hitting on her" But you could meet that same woman in line at the grocery store or at the dmv and have the same casual conversation and that's all it amounts to. You're the same guy, you're saying the same thing, you still have a wife at home and no interest in a relationship, the only thing that's changed is her expectations. But why is that? Why is it ok to like a different brand of deli ham or a different beer than her at the grocery store or the dmv but not ok at the party?

I apologize if none of this makes any sense. Just kind of lost in my thoughts at the moment.

[Arky-X]

The eighties hit Pretty in Pink was much more realistic in it's nuance. The lead female characters is "virtuous" and is waiting for "the one" and in the meantime, Duckie her best friend guy who is crushing on her and the epitome of Beta tries to White Knight his way into her dreams but instead she falls for that rich kid douche "who turns out to be misunderstood and not just trying to wreck muh hymen after all but really respects me".... Which is her way of talking herself into making poor mating choices by telling herself lies that she knows are lies. In the end, the beta in waiting guy is SO smitten with her that he actually HELPS the other guy get a shot at wrecking the Red Carpet...Afterwards she decides to bail on the awkward Beta best friend at prom for the Alpha in a trendy white suit with a Porsche. This is something else that I've noticed can happen sometimes when a man is so blinded by pretty girl that he doesn't even realize that he's being manipulated and therefore losing his bid to mate with the dream girl. She turns the beta string-along in to some sort of wingman to help her get laid. Then, he's just so beta that he lets it happen without protest and tries to move on or even maintain the relationship afterwards (clinging) with the girl who insulted him because she can't help that she's not attracted to him.

How dare you bash Molly Ringwald!

But her and Duckie were just friends.........that is unless it didn't work it out with Alpha. Backup plan, right?

[ironchop]

Isn`t she the one time...... at band camp.......... she stuck a clarinet in her pussy-fa-zule ? [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

I thought it was a banjo [emoji848]

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[ironchop]

How dare you bash Molly Ringwald!

But her and Duckie were just friends.........that is unless it didn't work it out with Alpha. Backup plan, right?

Yup. Backup plan.

If girls know you're interested in them sexually and you aren't repugnant, they'll keep you around for awhile.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...urns-sour.html

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[Billy Golightly]

So I thought I'd share a little story I learned of recently.

An acquaintance of mine works in a predominantly female office.

A girl there has been apparently taking some training and classes after work to get another certification. She and this guy from there connected and they have been flirting in and out of class. I'm told she's married already, too.

Long story short, apparently this guy sent her flowers. Her other girlfriends have said that they bought them for her since she had a family member pass away recently, as a covering story. I mean not only are you screwing around married, you're using that as an angle to cover for? I had to laugh.

Now I dont know any of them and it may all be horse . Maybe the husband is deserves it. But all I could think of when I heard of this tale is tomassi saying "hypergamy doesn't care".

Stay vigilant.




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[ironchop]

Relevant article I stumbled across yesterday. Very troubling.

https://www.sott.net/article/395535-...ientific-paper

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[sledcrazyinCT]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that's a bunch of BS. Glad their article was still made public. Heaven forbid you hurt some women's feelings....No debate from any of them, just condemnation.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.04184.pdf

[atctim]

Just saw this and had to share it - especially after reading the Kavenaugh comments on that thread:

There is plenty to discuss about the Kavanaugh fiasco, but one aspect that has struck me as particularly cruel is the backlash against his emotional display. The mainstream press has dignified this grotesque evisceration by publishing the criticism, much of it written by women. I won't link to any examples, but anyone can find them pretty easily.
In short, the disgust over Kavanaugh's tears provides a prime example of a simple truth: women are not only incapable of understanding male vulnerability, but instinctively react with loathing when they do encounter it.

Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. -Brene Brown

Even Saturday Night Live just now mocked Kavanaugh for shedding tears over his calendars. From a feminine perspective, this makes no sense whatsoever...a woman got sexually assaulted and you are crying over calendars?
The calendar, of course, was merely incidental. Kavanaugh choked up at the thought the person who started the tradition - his father, the primary model of masculinity in his life. He cried at memories of camaraderie with his friends - brotherhood, duty. The all too familiar feeling of humiliation, rage, disappointment, sadness, and injustice all rolled into one as his career - the major source of masculine purpose - gets dragged through the mud in front of the whole country.
I recall reading on this sub once that when a woman watches Saving Private Ryan, she might as well be looking at static. She fundamentally lacks the ability to understand a man's emotional core.
The strong, silent man is a masculine archetype for a reason.
We tell boys not to cry for a reason.
Insults such as "pussy" are there for a reason.
Never cry in front of a woman, except when your parents die.

[ironchop]

Relevant......

https://www.dangerous.com/49605/boy-...o-allegations/

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