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    Atc 200 e recoil kickback

    New to me engine, Pull's over ok then when it fires the recoil rips your shoulder out of socket and then quits. Magneto set at T and cam lobes should be down with the pin on the cam shaft that holds the advance ... at 11 o clock position.. cam sprocket O is at top...then turned Mag to the F mark and set cdi straight at 12 o clock position...,,any ideas ?
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    Check the small springs on the rotor and or the cam is off a few teeth. Pull the rotor, set to TDC and verify the cam is in the right orientation. I bet its jumped a few teeth.

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    [ATTACH=CONFIG]265458[. Mag on F....can I loosen the 2 screws and turClick image for larger version. 

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ID:	265458turn the plate to align the black piece to rotor o?
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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ID:	265459. T on mag.
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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    rotate the ring holding the pickup, clockwise just a little.
    What about the 2 small springs on the backside of the rotor?
    when you twist the rotor, does it spring back?

    My " Walmart Special" bike was missing both springs, it would run (poorly), but every now and then rip the pull cord out of my hand. Installed new springs from Partzilla ($6 each) ran great after that.
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    85 250sx "Enterprise"
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    86 250r "Unicorn"
    86 trx250r
    88 Lt250r Suzuki
    83 Z50r
    85 ATC 70
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ID:	265460 shouldn't this come apart as you say rotate the ring ?
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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ID:	265461 springs work
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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    Make sure align the dots on reassembly on that mechanical advancer .


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    What dots ?
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
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    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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ID:	265462. Think I found them. One at my fingertip and one above it on rotor hopefully.
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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    Yep you found them , very common problem we’re their installed 180 degrees out .



    Quote Originally Posted by dustrunner View Post
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ID:	265462. Think I found them. One at my fingertip and one above it on rotor hopefully.
    78 atc 90/180cc Dickson Full Suspension
    76 ATC90/180cc Nicholson
    77 atc 90 Dickson Full Suspension
    84 KLT 110/123cc Powroll Racer from 80s
    87 atc 125m stock
    84 atc 200x Curtis Sparks
    84 atc 200x Powroll My race bike from 80's
    83 atc70/108cc Powroll blue Xmas Special
    81 atc185s HP-ATC full suspension

    Performance Shop is Open PM me for Service

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ID:	265464. F on the mag. Is this ok ? or do I need it straight up to the left a tooth ? Still kicks back badly
    Last edited by dustrunner; 12-08-2020 at 11:30 PM.
    our original 85 we bought new, 2 - 86 police specials
    250r dust runner
    04 Yamaha kodiaK 450 snowbuster ! Brute Force 750 dust collector .
    Bunch of es stuff I been buying for next builds....
    Gone but lives on in my aching body the mighty 350x collection . A Beat 85 es im gonna rebuild

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    Looks like your off a tooth on the cam, shes firing a little early.
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    update please,

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    85 350x "Yard Sale" Flat Tracker
    84 250r "lucky"
    85 250sx "Enterprise"
    85 350x "Code Red"
    86 250r "Unicorn"
    86 trx250r
    88 Lt250r Suzuki
    83 Z50r
    85 ATC 70
    88 KD80x
    85 CR250r
    84 KXT250r Tecate

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    Probably can't type right now; injured hand.


    Recoil starters...a great way to punch yourself in the face with full force or pull your arm out of socket.

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