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  1. #331
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    Awesome build! I finally just finished reading the whole thing, a lot of the pictures were super helpful as I'm on the first steps of basically the same thing. That plating setup is very cool, I still haven't decided what to do with the hardware and little parts that aren't practical to powdercoat, and that bright finish looks great.

    I also agree that I would not run those old brake lines. I've seen some bad stuff with old lines on cars, on a trike that could mean a life changing crash if your brakes don't work... or work too much. If you have any hydraulic shops near you (like plows and dump equipment) sometimes they will be set up to custom make brake hoses. We have had a bunch of whole-car soft line systems made locally like that, it's not very expensive if you know exactly what you need or if you have the old line to bring as a template.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskool83 View Post
    Your total will just increase
    I think your right......especially when it comes to the fenders & such. I'm probably gonna PM you on the brake lines. Remember one took me forever to get unplugged.

    Your $2100 spent seems well spent. I was trying to get this whole project....including the price to purchase the trike... under 1500.



    Quote Originally Posted by tricycle tommy View Post
    Awesome build! I finally just finished reading the whole thing, a lot of the pictures were super helpful as I'm on the first steps of basically the same thing. That plating setup is very cool, I still haven't decided what to do with the hardware and little parts that aren't practical to powdercoat, and that bright finish looks great.
    Thank you. I would recommend that plating kit to anybody just trying to freshen up things........... It's quick and easy to do and not that expensive.

    I often go back and reread this thread just to see where my mind was at at the time and what I was thinking.

  3. #333
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    Well stupid me.....2nd big mistake of this project.

    While reassembling the last front fork I forgot to put the backup ring under the fork seal....so when I went to separate things the guide bushing stayed in the lower tube while everything else came out. It's all scratched up in there from the removal.

    Seems almost impossible to take out without damage. If anybody has any ideas I'm open to them....thank you

    I should of thought it out beforehand.... I hate when stupid takes over.



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    I tried to minimize the damage to the slider but I removed the stuck bushing and caused some damage. I think it's still usable/serviceable.

    I've never had anything like this happened to me before. I tried everything I could think of to try to remove it without causing too much damage to the slider. My only 2 bushing removal tools wouldn't fit & my expansion grabber thingy (for lack of a better description) could have been used but if it slipped just a little bit, it would dig into the surrounding aluminum...... I didn't want to risk it.

    I decided to use a Dremel and a small cut off bit and just take my sweet time with some pics trying to remove it without digging into the bushing race.....which I did anyway.

    Today's project is to get things sanded down in there and smoothed out the best I can........& get a couple of bushings ordered. Actually, I already ordered the guide bushing. I'm just gonna inspect the sliding bushing and see if it's still usable. I can't imagine it could be after sliding through the other one but it dosent look that bad.

    Of the two forks I disassembled this one was the worst one in that the fluid was dark and gritty, and things felt maybe a little loose. Maybe I shouldn't even question purchasing the other bushing and just do it.









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    Wouldn't it be nice if someone had OE fork oil DNA tested, so we knew what fish it was made from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATC King View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice if someone had OE fork oil DNA tested, so we knew what fish it was made from.
    Early 80s?... I'm guessing dolphin fins.

    This is the best I can get it without removing too much material. You can see the gouges...I feel it's usable. If not I will deal with it then.

    Since I marked up the finish with all these shenanigans I sanded it with 400 grit and gave it another coat. Bushing should get here in about a week.

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    Told myself to start the new year working on this 200X....even if it's something minor.

    Plated and refurbished a couple little things. I want this completed this year....that's the plan.

    Still waiting on Partzilla to deliver the bushing. Paid a week ago and now just shipping.








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    Looking good!!!
    It sucks to get old

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    While power washing the garage I saw my old fenders sitting in the corner full of dust, webs & crud.

    Decided to wash them and use a razor & get some of that oxidation off for therapy reasons. For me it's kinda like popping bubble wrap. That's going to be a job, but those cracks and the condition of this fender have me thinking. Compared to the condition of the exhaust, which wasn't usable....these fenders are. But apparently I'm going for "pretty" so we will see.

    I'd love to save them but if there's room in the budget I may opt for a set of Maiers.






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    Oh yeah, a couple of hot staples and some plastic welding and you will be in business. I just did that for my 250sx. The rear fender and trunk lid were severely cracked but I want to keep the OEM fender with the trunk.
    My 250sx is my farm machine and needs to be as much utility as fun.
    Put your butt on the inside fender or end up on the ground!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Footy View Post
    Oh yeah, a couple of hot staples and some plastic welding and you will be in business. I just did that for my 250sx. The rear fender and trunk lid were severely cracked but I want to keep the OEM fender with the trunk.
    My 250sx is my farm machine and needs to be as much utility as fun.
    Drill hole at end if crank. Stitch up and run. Crank won't Crack around a hole anymore. Don't use razor. Use brake fluid and scotch Brite. I've taken 3 layers of paint off my old oem 84 kx124 fenders and after thru the oxidation it smooths it out pretty well. A nice hit with a heat gun brings it back to rider quality. The brake fluid soaks into the plastic to make it less brittle. Once my trick jow yours. You do need hours abd an elbow. Se5 a timer 1hr a night. Every hour is an hour closer to done

  12. #342
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    You could get them cleaned up/repaired as much as possible then paint them.

    Quality paint will hold up well. Besides something like smashing into a tree or rolling it over pretty good, the paint shouldn't pop off.

    No matter how many hours of labor you put into restoring old plastics, the rough stuff cant be totally removed. Shiny new paint will cover most of it up.

    A new set of Maiers would be nice and easy but there's bonus points for keeping the OE fenders on a rider.



    I personally don't like zip tie stitching. No bonus points for that. It's akin to using duck tape on a torn seat, which makes it the whole machine look like it's just being pieced together to ride until dead and junked. Weld them up the best you can and go from there.

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    Looking good, Keep digging!
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    Nothing wrong with maier fenders at some point. 200x rear and a250r front really bring the X back to life. But you can just add another $400 to the overall...Ive said for last few years It's still cheaper to piece build one of these new again then buy a $1500-2000 junker and start. Day at a time. No matter how much money you try and save will be enought. It will just spend it's self so spend it on the toy so you can ride it. Riding money is fun, throwing money in the garage you can't ride is no fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATC King View Post
    A new set of Maiers would be nice and easy but there's bonus points for keeping the OE fenders on a rider.
    I'll go for the bonus points for now.

    As Mr. C said...keep digging. The crazing is deep.....I'll have to dig deep to get most of it off.

    I was thinking about what Footy said & just do some plastic welding. I came across an old hand guard off a Honda XR at the swap meet a while back but I can't find it for the life of me. My plan was to cut some of it and use it in the welding process. I don't even know if it's the same type plastic or whatever but I think it would work. I was even thinking of melting it so I can pour it in and fill in the cracks. But i've never melted this type of plastic before....... don't know what to expect.

    Like oldskool said....I'm just going to bite off little chunks at at time and not try to overwhelm myself with the process.

    If anything I see a whole load of sanding in my future.








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