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Thread: My 1st 2 a stroke. 250r need help!

  1. #16
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    I think im having the same problem on my 250r too. i took it out today and full throttled it to try and clean it out, but it still gushes gas from the bowl over flow. im gonna clean it out as soon as i can find a clymer manual. good luck though. you got an amazing deal on the 250r, hope you enjoy it as much as i enjoy mine.

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    A little does alot when it comes to bending that tab and adjusting the float level.

    You don't even really " Bend It " .. you actually " Gently push it " in a direction and check the tip of the float at the oposite end of the tab for a x mm height when at rest.

    It's not impossible, but it's a fine adjusment and a careful ballance...... A manual REALLY helps in these cases.

    If the rubber stopper / tip of the thing that the metal tab on the float holds ( did that confuse you ? .. ) is messed up in any way.. dry or grovved it won't stop the gas from flowing no matter what you do to the float..
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    I had the mystery gas overflowing problem with my 200x also. And you know what I did to fix it....













    ...I bought another carburetor

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    sandrooster is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    My experience with this type of carb and fouling plugs problem.

    I fought the overflowing carb issue for a year on my 85R.

    After repeatedly taking apart and cleaning the carb, replacing every gasket, and buying new floats, nothing helped the problem. I even removed the float bowl so I could manually move the floats up while the fuel shutoff valve was opened. This of course would stop the fuel flow leading me to think the needle valve and seat were good to go. Replace bowl, overflow problem returned. WTH.

    I finally bought a carb rebuild kit and figured out the problem. The float needle was worn out.

    The new needle was different than the original and didn't have the rubber tip that I thought was the issue. The culprit was the spring loaded end pin of the needle. After comparing the old and new needle spring tension. It was obvious the old spring was too soft and worn out. Installed just the new needle, reassemble and install carb, no more overflow problem.

    What was going on. With the worn out needle, the fuel flow will continue to flow into the bowl even though the floats were up. Fuel pressure would over power the needle spring. Thus resulting in the overflowing fuel.

    I haven't fouled a plug since. My Rs now run with crisper throttle response.

    Moose carb rebuild kits for 86-89Rs, ATC or TRX, are $16 to $18.
    85 ATC250R

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    conig is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    i think you should just buy a new needle it would be alot easier.

    what do you mean by air tube? the tube connecting the manifold to the carb, or the tube connecting the carb to the air box? either way they need to be replaced. You could take the carb to home depot and possible find some hose to work there.

    I apologize if the carb on a 250r doesn;t connect to the intake manifold via a tube I don;t have one, but im just trying to understand the problem im not getting it from the posts thaty have been made.
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    My 38 stryker was leaking like sob...I opened the bowl and i found a peice of hair on the needle seat .. i cleaned it off then cleaned the carb put it back together and no more leaks Still dont know if its going to run rich or lean yet LOL im still working on that
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    toyvette81 is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    it blew the plugs b/c of no itake tube. my o ring was bad in my intake and the throttle would race by itsself and would blow a plud every time, get that tube or * willb e rebuilding soon or go broke on plugs, and if its ** 1st 2 stroke * may not know that * need to keep that thing raced up to keep the plugs good, all 2 strokes foul plugs if * put around, ride the heck out of it when * get it right, thats what its made 4

  8. #23
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    ummm yeah! what he said
    1986 ATC 250R
    Ported w/ Cool head
    LED pipe and silencer.
    Vforce3
    Keihin PWK 38mm
    Works Ultra Cross Shock
    LSR +2 Axle
    American Star Racing +4 Swinger
    LED Intake
    Hi-Flite desert seat
    OEM clutch 89 upgrade
    2021 YFZ450Rse Rossier R5 Titanium Header AIS Delete FCI Vortex ECU


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    Quote Originally Posted by toyvette81
    it blew the plugs b/c of no itake tube. my o ring was bad in my intake and the throttle would race by itsself and would blow a plud every time, get that tube or * willb e rebuilding soon or go broke on plugs, and if its ** 1st 2 stroke * may not know that * need to keep that thing raced up to keep the plugs good, all 2 strokes foul plugs if * put around, ride the heck out of it when * get it right, thats what its made 4
    SAY WHAT!?!?! I made enough sense of your rambling abbreviated run on sentence to correct you on one thing, all 2 strokes DO NOT foul plugs if they are jetted, tuned and maintained properly.
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