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    wow !

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    I would definately pull it out and split the cases. I wouldn't spend a dime on new parts to put in it if thats what came out of my oil..that looks horrible....worst I've ever seen. How in the world was it still running??
    Justin ~hondaATCman~

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    was a honda

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    it still ran just didnt have the power it would usally have(usally happens when i get alot of mud and water in carb and trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro) so i did what i would do if i got water in, went to change oil, then that stuff came out!!! so now i pulled the motor out and i got the rocker cap off, thats all i no how to do i wil be getting a manual tomorrow or the next day. is it a pain in the ass to pull the cases apart? which side should i do first? right or left? and i got no idea y it still ran lol all i can thinik of is its a honda well if the bottom end is f***** up i will probly get an xr200 bottom end. but i really cant do anything till i get the head off. i dont no what to do next...got rocker cap off now i can see the cam, a cain(timming cahin mabye) and the springs, no more bolts so i got to wait for my manual to get the rest off. wish me luck.... i hope i dont have to sell and get a golf cart o well we will wait and see.
    1974 atc 90 project underway cuzzztom

    1985 atc 110 for sale

    84 200s all original got off the first and only owner
    new carb
    maybe putting my 200x cam in it but not sure

    old trike
    1985 200x
    12.1 piston
    oil cooler kit
    white bors cam
    super trapp exhaust
    uni clamp on air filter
    350x front end

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    Man if that happened to me id either buy another motor or get another bike and use the 200X as a parts bike. But good luck on fixing it and keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vartiak15
    its not a ring cuz it is aluminum... does this mean its fromt he bottom end?
    Looks like thrust washers. This isn't good at all. If it is the rod will need replaced. I might be able to get a better idea if I have the full size picture. Email it to me and I will upload it to one of my storage accounts and post the full size picture.
    Howdy

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    Ok, I have recieved the pictures and have looked at them. The pictures is better evidence of my worse thoughts. That ring is your thrust washer. I am 95% sure of it.

    Where to start? The only way to 100% confirm my fear is to remove the top end ( head and cylinder ). Then look for washers on the crank on each side of the rod. I am willing to bet your missing one or both.
    To fix the motor you must split the cases. This means both side covers, and part must be removed before the cases can be split. This isn't too hard.
    Splitting the motor isn't that hard, how ever being able to put everything back together is. There are a lot of little parts that must be put back as they are removed. If you are going to do the work a good manual is a requirement.

    I was able to cut only the needed stuff from the pictures so they could be posted. Those pictures are below.
    Howdy
    Last edited by Howdy; 12-30-2007 at 04:17 PM.

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    Ouch. Crunchy bearings. Maybe a whole new engine would be easier? Good luck....
    mudpuppy.

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    no not a new motor lol. where can i get a honda manual?
    1974 atc 90 project underway cuzzztom

    1985 atc 110 for sale

    84 200s all original got off the first and only owner
    new carb
    maybe putting my 200x cam in it but not sure

    old trike
    1985 200x
    12.1 piston
    oil cooler kit
    white bors cam
    super trapp exhaust
    uni clamp on air filter
    350x front end

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    a parts or service manual? check ebay
    1985 Honda 350X - a lot of performance stuff, everything but a cam, hope to get one soon
    1984 Honda 200ES
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    so i was right ! mu hahahahaha ! i hate being right int his case tho !
    thats a same dude i just sold a xr200r motor!

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    howdy is what you are talking about number 6 on parts fish under crankshaft piston(under 85 200x)???????
    1974 atc 90 project underway cuzzztom

    1985 atc 110 for sale

    84 200s all original got off the first and only owner
    new carb
    maybe putting my 200x cam in it but not sure

    old trike
    1985 200x
    12.1 piston
    oil cooler kit
    white bors cam
    super trapp exhaust
    uni clamp on air filter
    350x front end

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    nate b is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerAt the back of the pack
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    got shavings like that in my wifes 230 quadsport. It was siezed when i got it with metal in the oil, broke it loose,changed oil, ran it for about 2min and the oil was full of metal again so i changed it again and ran it for about 4hours then it siezed again, got it broke loose but i dont think im gonna ride it til i tear it apart and see was hapining.
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    mine was running and not siezin so i dono if we got the same problem(y keep riding it you will **** it up more
    1974 atc 90 project underway cuzzztom

    1985 atc 110 for sale

    84 200s all original got off the first and only owner
    new carb
    maybe putting my 200x cam in it but not sure

    old trike
    1985 200x
    12.1 piston
    oil cooler kit
    white bors cam
    super trapp exhaust
    uni clamp on air filter
    350x front end

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    Quote Originally Posted by vartiak15
    howdy is what you are talking about number 6 on parts fish under crankshaft piston(under 85 200x)???????
    That is the part.
    FYI, The crank / rod assembly is pressed together. If it's repaired it will need to be done by a place that can do it without damaging the crank.
    Howdy

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