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Thread: 84r runs like P**P!!!!!!!!!

  1. #1
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    84r runs like P**P!!!!!!!!!

    Ok here goes I have an 84 250r that I just picked up. The motor is supposed to be fresh from a complete top to bottom rebuild. I have had the head off and the crosshatch is fresh and everything is clean with no carbon build up. The cylinder is .80 over and it checks out good on both a standard compression test and a Leakdown test so perhaps the motor is indeed fresh. The carb was dirty so I took it out and cleaned it (Dipped overnight, All holes reamed with rifle brush bristles, blown out with compressed air.)
    FMF adjustable reeds and Dg pipe (Yeah I know) K&N Air filter. This thing is running like crap. Motor loads up at low speed wont rev clean. Once the motor catches up with it self it takes off like a rocket. Mix is 40 to 1 semi synthetic Lucas racing oil. I think that the reeds might be shot I flipped them in the reed cage and it runs better but still builds revs slow and bogs under load. Any thoughts or suggestions I am not that experienced with two strokes thanks in advance.

  2. #2
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    Sounds like it needs re-jetted.
    Justin ~hondaATCman~

    '82 Honda ATC 110
    '81 Honda ATC 250r (Summer Project)
    '87 Suzuki LT 250r Quadracer - Very Modded...FAST!!
    '03 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4x4
    '85 Ford Bronco II 4x4 2.8 V6

  3. #3
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    Sounds like an air/fuel problem. Had to change my jets because I was having the same problem.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

  4. #4
    whats the plug look like?whens the last time it was changed?
    84 Honda Big Red w/plow
    85 Honda 200X
    88 Honda CR 125
    86 350x(in process of building)
    :trikesown :Beerchug :trikesown

  5. #5
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    sounds like the guy who had it befor...it was worn to hell and but a big ass main in it to keep it running then rebuilt it and didnt change it back..try a smaller main jet
    1985 Tri-Z-

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  6. #6
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    make sure all jets are clean as hell.
    1974 atc 90 project underway cuzzztom

    1985 atc 110 for sale

    84 200s all original got off the first and only owner
    new carb
    maybe putting my 200x cam in it but not sure

    old trike
    1985 200x
    12.1 piston
    oil cooler kit
    white bors cam
    super trapp exhaust
    uni clamp on air filter
    350x front end

  7. #7
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    Plug comes out black and wet. I have changed the plug a few times. I belive that wet and black means rich? The last time I put in a fresh plug it ran better put blew white smoke like crazy. What range of jetting am I looking at both pilot and main. Needle position? Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

  8. #8
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    i got a 84 like yours last week ,same mods, i run a 132 main, needle in the second clip from the top, 40-1 klotz supertechnaplate, and a 50 pilot stock, #8 plug, stock 30mm carb
    1985 With "86" Plastic's,Custom 12" Alluminum Extended Swing Arm,39MM PWK,"TRX" Filter,9 Paddle TALLER HALLER'S on 11" Wide Rim's,LOT'S of Stainless,LOT'S of Alluminum,LOT'S of PowderCoating,NOTHING Stock..

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  9. #9
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    May 2002
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    My 84 has a 125 main, with needle clip in center slot, stock carb and I use B9ES plugs. I had the same symptoms till I went to a smaller main jet. Runs much better now.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

  10. #10
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    Belton Texas
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    did u check trailprotrailpro trany oil that caused the problem on my kd 80
    three wheeling for life

    rides:
    83 honda atc 200 Sold for $400
    saving up for tecate 250R tri Z ao 350X

  11. #11
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    Ok here is an update. I Cleaned the carb again. Blew out the pilot jet #50 and the main #130, poped in a fresh plug and cleaned the K&N. Trike is running much better this thing has nuts. Still a little slow to rev and the mid is kinda flat seems like is takes a long time to get on the pipe. Idle is good revs are quick with no load. Under load it stutters till high rpm smooths out if I grab the next gear. Driving me crazy so close but yet so far away.
    Thanks again for your time and consideration.

  12. #12
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    May 2002
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    Check your plug again and see if it is still blck and wet. If so you may want to try a smaller main jet.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

  13. #13
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    What is the needle set at?
    '02 Honda 416ex - A seasoned blend of 11 herbs and spices
    '04 Honda Recon - The yard machine and snow plow
    '88 Honda CR250R - Another chapter in my torrid all terrain affair

  14. #14
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    Droped the main jet one size. Raised the clip on the needle one notch and Viola this thing rips!!!! revs much quicker and gets up on the pipe right NOW!!!
    Needless to say I am a Happy camper thanks for all your help and advice.

  15. #15
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    Glad to hear it, enjoy your ride
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

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