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Thread: 300 big bore for air cooled R.

  1. #1
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    300 big bore for air cooled R.

    Does anyone know anything about the big bore kit for an air cooled R? Can you still buy pistons for them? The cylinder is a factory Honda part, correct?
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

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    00 XR70R

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    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
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    94 Indy XLT
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    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
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    83 ALT50
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  2. #2
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    Yes, the 300 kit is a factory Honda option. No the pistons are no longer available. I am still trying to find one for the 300 kit I have.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

  3. #3
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    Let me know if you find a piston, I think I'm gonna buy the kit and start looking for a piston my self. I've heard of YZ250 pistons in a 250R so I bet just about any 2-stroke piston with the same bore can be made to work. Do you know how many milimeters the piston would be? How many times can you over bore it?
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

  4. #4
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    76.00mm is stock and it can go out to 80.00mm
    Good luck with finding a piston.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

  5. #5
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    Hmmm... if you have the "kit" it should be included. I've got a 300R head here. Saw a guy have a huge motor lot in Cali a month or so ago that had a 300R jug with it. He wouldn't seperate it and I wasn't going to buy 6 motors to get the 300R jug.

    Bruce
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
    '86 ATC350X - 'Go-Go Girl'
    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
    '82 ATC250R -'Snow Bunny' Ice Racer, Very Clean, Hondaline Fairing, custom FT tire, will put in the 300R motor
    '70 US90 'Ol'Girl" - Aquarius Blue... all original seat and tires. Resto project in the future
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  6. #6
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    Well if you have a kit with a standard piston that is worn out you still have a kit and you still need a piston.
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

  7. #7
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    Yep... good point. I thought you might have bought that kit that xownerx had. When you said kit I assumed it was new never installed.

    Bruce
    '85 ATC350X - "Showgirl" '86 OEM plastics/Fork boots, Rear Axle/Rotor/Hubs, Hondaline Fender stabalizer/extender, Speedo/Tach, Tank cover.
    '86 ATC350X - 'Go-Go Girl'
    '82 ATC250R - 'California Girl' - Progressive springs F and R, Hondaline HL Guard, Fairing and Speedometer.
    '82 ATC250R -'Snow Bunny' Ice Racer, Very Clean, Hondaline Fairing, custom FT tire, will put in the 300R motor
    '70 US90 'Ol'Girl" - Aquarius Blue... all original seat and tires. Resto project in the future
    '85 ATC250ES-'Workin' Girl' CMP Footguard, Hondaline Mudflaps, Speedo, HL Lens, Block Heater, Work Light, Foot Peg Covers and Cooler Rack
    '85 ATC70 - All Original

    '84 Yamaha 225DX - Durablue +3" axle, DR motor, New Plastics, Foot, Hand and HL Guards.
    '85 Yamahauler - Gun Rack & 'Nerf Bars'
    '85 Yamahauler - Nearly together and restored
    '83 Suzuki ALT125 - Pieces
    '89 Suzuki LT-4WD - Token Golf Cart

  8. #8
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    Nov 2004
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    I don't have it yet but I know where I can get one. How much do you think the cylinder and head are worth? What is different about the head? Larger diameter combustion chamber or what? I probably shouldn't even wast the money if I can't get a piston.
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

  9. #9
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    call LA sleeve, they can sleeve it and supply a piston for it too. Most 300 kits have been bored out to the max, so they figured out how to sleeve them and supply pistons. Prolly not worth the cost though.
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  10. #10
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    well both CT and TRINITY RACING has machines capable of making pistons, also trinity racing told me that they can make a piston for out dated big bore kits.
    adam
    86 ATC 500R the duner..
    85 ATC 500R...the not quite finished faster duner
    1985 ATC 250R Bone stock!!
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  11. #11
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    Everyone I talked to said fjor around $500-$600 they could resleeve and supply a new piston. they actually use a water cooled 330 kit to make it happen.
    84 ATC200X--Wife rode it once, now I can't get it back.
    84 ATC250R--Trying to find piston for 300R kit.
    85 ATC350X--Project finally under way, slow progress. For pics: http://groups.msn.com/ATCfriends/350xproject.msnw
    84 ATC200S--Freebie from a neighbor, needs topend rebuild and tires.

  12. #12
    If the cylinder has any bores left on it you can also trim the skirts off a fl350 piston and go that route.
    1985 350x
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    1985 250r
    200 auto x
    1984 250r
    1982 250r
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    86 Tri Z
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  13. #13
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    Then there's two 350cc oddy's. The early version is 329cc and thats the one that should work................
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  14. #14
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    how much do you have to trim off the skirt on the oddy pistons to make them work? and if that works for the 300 kit, will a fl250 oddy jug and piston bolt up to a 83 R bottem end?????
    1985 Tri-Z-

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  15. #15
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    I hate to bring this up, but awhile ago wasn't there a person who needed 15 more poeple so he chould have pistons made. I belieive the piston, rings, and such were gonna cost $200. Did he ever get the people he needed to do this?

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