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    Pullin 4th 0n a hill

    I mostly race on a pretty steep hill . My bike does not hold 4th. Should I gear to make 3rd faster or drop teeth to try to pull 4th ????? Bikes Not FULL MOD Just ported 1st over 198 comp. Exaust man. FMF pipe Boysen RAD vaulve KNN filter.

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    My god man... a slight incline requires 3rd on my o'l Red !... LOL... 4th on a steep one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-camp
    I mostly race on a pretty steep hill . My bike does not hold 4th. Should I gear to make 3rd faster or drop teeth to try to pull 4th ????? Bikes Not FULL MOD Just ported 1st over 198 comp. Exaust man. FMF pipe Boysen RAD vaulve KNN filter.
    Go down a tooth on your front to a 13 & you'll be able to do it! Takes some get'n used to but I'm pull'n 5th on some of the comp hills out @ the dunes now, its a

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    I have a 13 tooth and a 39 . Your saying gear down and go for 4th ?

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    yes go to a 12 tooth front sprocket and u will pull hills no PROB!
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    But wiil i get to the top faster in 4th??? 3rd is pretty mean. I Might never need 4th if it was taller. Is this thinking wrong?

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    Their saying if you go down one tooth on your countershaft sprocket you MAY be able to PULL 4th gear, but you might not be gaining any more speed. You are trying to gain forth AND speed, correct?
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    Just trying to stay in front . First to the top is the name of the game. So I'm looking for a hill racer to tell me if 4th is something I need or , If I need to sta y in third and go up a tooth if I'm almost to the top when i go for fourth .

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    I say keep it in 3rd, as long as you're not running out of speed you're not revving it high enough. Keep that baby screamin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a-camp
    I have a 13 tooth and a 39 . Your saying gear down and go for 4th ?
    Dood, I used to run a 14 in front (stock I think & had the prob your state'n). I put on a 13, my trike is moded similar to yours (stock rear sproket still, not sure if its a 39 but that sounds right), & I can shoot Olds & Glamis and get into 4th on the way up from a dead bottom start! If I shoot it from 30 yards back or so I can hit 5th gear right as I start up & stay there most the way up! 3rd was OK before, but way wrap'd out and not fast enough to beat the Shees. I don't know whats the diff between ours now though? Try the 12 maybe, I didn't want to due to first gear being almost useless now. With a 12 front I'd never even use 1st anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-camp
    But wiil i get to the top faster in 4th??? 3rd is pretty mean. I Might never need 4th if it was taller. Is this thinking wrong?
    Yes I go faster than when I was run'n a 14 tooth front & hit'n 3rd gear. Enough to take most 4 strokes & Shees without much modification, thats fast enough for me.
    I may see your PROB. right in your sig pic, care to guess what? Tis the only thing that I CAN SEE diff. between our rides....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ250R
    Yes I go faster than when I was run'n a 14 tooth front & hit'n 3rd gear. Enough to take most 4 strokes & Shees without much modification, thats fast enough for me.
    I may see your PROB. right in your sig pic, care to guess what? Tis the only thing that I CAN SEE diff. between our rides....
    I'll take a guess AZ. You're running Haulers and a-camp is running Edge's or Sand Skates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
    I'll take a guess AZ. You're running Haulers and a-camp is running Edge's or Sand Skates.
    We HAVE A WINNER!!!
    Now I could B wrong, but I'm gues'n that's IT! Sandman has run his setup both ways, just saw a couple of NICE pics of it, so what do you think?
    Last edited by AZ250R; 12-15-2004 at 07:44 PM.

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    Cool, I'm going to Disneyland! Oops, wrong commercial. Actually I only run the haulers now and I don't even own a pair of knobs.

    You're definitley hooking up better with the haulers. How do you like them, last I remember you were talking about getting a pair. They make your eyes water huh? And you never get tired of looking back at the roost they throw.
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    got sand?

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    u will run fast up olds in 12 but wat i say is 13/39 is stock tooth. 12/39 would prolly be best to start out in 2nd cause 1st going to be real short. get a set of 8 paddle haulers and u be fine the edges are for turns and not straight line i dont know that could be affecting it or not but the haulers run good.
    adam
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