Jeff...Redrider

[Yamahammer490]

That's a very nice 250R! I like the way you made it look factory and love the attention to detail. Very cool.

[Kintore]

Red rider, I have to say agian nice machine but......
Sandman very clean R I must say, I like the modified ones but theres something about a stock looking 250r that I love. Would love to see some action pics if you can get them, like red rider said, autofocus in todays cameras isnt fast enough lol.

And what sort of pointers do you got for a 84 250r?
I would like to see you two race, awesome R's guys!

[Red Rider]

Thanks Yama.

Here you go Sandman, I just happen to have a few pics of your bike on my computer. Enjoy, everyone.

[Mr. Sandman]

Thanks guys, and props to Red Rider for giving me the shout out! Woo hoo!

I've got quite a few action pics from back in the day that I just started scanning last night, i.e., my new avatar pic, that was taken back in 1986/87 when I was young, fearless and didn't have a family to support.

Kintore, the older model R's were nice, but if you can get a 85 or 86 water pumper you won't believe the difference. I can't even begin describe how much better they are in every aspect. It's an unbelievable feeling to spank the late model, high dollar machines of today with our 20 year old bikes. There will always be someone faster, but then again when you spend 10x more than what I've got into mine, they damn well better be faster.

[Blown 331]

Wow, those look great. I'm debating loosing my gold rims inplace of alluminum. My swing arm is gold and still has all the original pro-link stickers on it and they are perfect so I can't hardly repaint that. I guess I should leave this one stock and maybe pick up a beater to restore and make it how I want it.

[Kintore]

Im looking right now for a 85/86, so many people sandman have said the same thing to me.


but first im going to get used to the power of the 84, maybe in spring ill get a 85.

[AirManCam]

Very nice R's, both of you...I think I might have to pick me up a waterpumper when the right one comes up :-P

[Dammit!]

!, nobody makes any kind of kit to run the powervalve cylinder, that's why I had to do it all myself. The only alternative is to get one of those pro-x powervalve cylinders, which use vacuum to control the valve(s).

I'm not very familiar with powervalve tech. What are the pros and cons of doing it their way versus yours? I assume with theirs all you need is the cylinder?

And just to be sure, the biggest benefit of using a powervalve is increased low end power right?

[Mr. Sandman]

Would love to see some action pics if you can get them, like red rider said, autofocus in todays cameras isnt fast enough.

Here's an old action shot of Red Rider and I from the late 80's. Ahh, the good old days. Red's on the right & I'm on the left.

[Red Rider]

!, I have no experience with the powervalve cylinders that are available from CT, ESR, or FTZ, but from what I understand, vacuum controlls the valve(s). I don't believe that is the best method of controlling the valve(s), otherwise, wouldn't Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, & Yamaha be using that method? I believe a centrifugal governor is a little quicker to respond to RPM changes. On the plus side, the powervalve cylinder kits just bolt right on without any machining of your cases, unless you get one of the large displacement cylinders.

A standard cylinder is a compromise in power output. It can be setup to produce awesome low-end, mid-range, or top-end power, but not all of the above all at once. A powervalve cylinder varies the size or height (sometimes both) of the exhaust port, as well as the compression ratio, as engine RPM changes. This helps give the engine a broader powerband, rather than finding all of the power in one area, low, mid, or top.

[Red Rider]

Darius, here's a few more pics that I don't think I've shown on here before.

[Jeb]

Man, I tell ya. That headlight shell is awesome. You did a good job on that. Power valve mods are cool too, but the head light shell looks Factory.

I gotta give you guys both compliments for keeping your machines so clean and STOCK looking. They look so much better like that than those desert ATVs you usually see all stretched out with the +10 swingarms and trimmed up plastics.

And keep those old pictures coming!

Sandman, 1 question for ya. did you strip and polish stock R wheels? or are those highly polished 350X or some other Honda wheel?

[Dammit!]

Darius, here's a few more pics that I don't think I've shown on here before.

What the... close up of front disc brake please!

[AirManCam]

What the... close up of front disc brake please!

Its just a disk, probably from a TRX R...looks good though

[Maine_Triker]

Very good looking Rs!!!!!!!! The best factory looking ones I've ever seen.