yeah, paypals fraud dept. sure is a joke. i to got screwed before from paypal not doing crap for me. " sorry we tried to get your money but cant" bout all i got.
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yeah, paypals fraud dept. sure is a joke. i to got screwed before from paypal not doing crap for me. " sorry we tried to get your money but cant" bout all i got.
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Every one is always telling me to go to pay pal, but now I see why I still use money orders!
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HA HA no good on money orders either!! good luck
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We should donate money for a flight for someone to kick this dudes ass real bad. That may make him stop his clepto ass behavior. Kind of a joke but if he lived within 1000 miles from me I would Jolly Stomp his ass. He is bad news and needs a lesson.
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lol.. found some more on mr. shortman.
http://forums.atvconnection.com/mess...did/429397.cfm
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HMM,maybe we have an atcphil sidekick with cape and all??
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I hope someone has passed on all the info that is on here ?
If you click on his profile it tells you its him
First Name: Phillip
Last Name: Shortman
Nickname: atcphil
City: South Wales - Cwmbran
Province/State: Other
Country: United Kingdom
Photo Page: atcphil's Photo Page
Message Posts: 45
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Im gonna give the police a call "AGAIN" see what is going on.....I may even pass all this on to a reporter see if he can get the police to do something !!
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Sorry for not being back but i have had a bad few weeks
Anyway "NOTHING" on the police i have left numerious messages in the last 3 weeks for them to contact me.
I have heard nothing, I passed on the details of skippy to them and obviously they have not even bothered to contact him
Other than going and kicking hiss ass
What more can be done ? Get the press involved ?
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Wow! Just read this post and it was some good reading other than the fact that people got ripped. There are some 'primetime' detectives on here. I might have missed it but did BLAZERONE22 keep his 100 bucks so he can blow it in Vegas next time? Need to do my taxes so I can make a run to Vegas myself and make a contribution.....woot!
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Man im kinda new on here and Ebay but im sure glad I missed out on this jerkoff. Iwas already leary of buying on the web now im even more so. I use money orders for everything so I guess when I get screwed I'll just be screwed that kinda sucks. I hope you guys get this fella. I hate a damn thief.
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http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp
file a report here if you had a bad transaction w him,,. thx
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A teenager fraudster who conned customers of the internet auction site eBay out of £45,000 has been sent to a detention centre for a year.
Phillip Shortman, now 18, of New Inn, Pontypool, had already admitted 21 counts of fraud at a prior hearing.
Cardiff Crown Court heard how Shortman spent money he received for non-existent goods on weekends to New York, hiring limousines, and clothes.
He told one deceived customer: "This is my business - I make people fools."
Judge Roderick Denyer lifted a court order which had prevented Shortman's name from being made public, in order to protect other internet shoppers.
During his trial at Newport, magistrates had heard Shortman, who was 17 when he committed the offences, had deceived more than 100 eBay customers over a 13-month period.
He had spent the money on top of the range computer equipment, hi-fis and flat-screen televisions, as well as designer clothes and hiring stretch limousines for himself and his friends.
He took two friends on a trip to New York, staying in a five-star hotel and taking a helicopter ride over Manhattan.
Police were alerted by customers who had been conned by Shortman, and he was arrested and warned to stop his activities, but when freed on bail continued to deceive people.
The court was told he was addicted to the website, saying it "gave him a buzz".
He admitted 21 charges of obtaining property by deception and asked for a further 64 to be taken into consideration.
'Frittered away'
Prosecutor Stuart McLeese said: "He was living the good life. He became addicted to selling goods on the internet that did not exist.
"When people complained they had not received their goods, he taunted them saying that it was his business to make fools out of people."
"He frittered the money away to make friendships locally. Those friends have shunned him now."
The court heard Shortman had married and become a father since his arrest.
Defending, Lawrence Jones said: "Since he has admitted his guilt, his life has changed. He has undergone a sea-change.
"He is relishing fatherhood and looking forward to the responsibility of being married."
Sentencing Shortman to 12 months detention and training, Judge Denyer said: "You were a persistent offender and ignored warnings to stop this criminal conduct.
"The public are entitled to protection from someone such as yourself.
"There are clearly aggravating features in this case in that you obtained cash by selling goods on the internet site eBay and carried on this conduct for over a year despite the warnings."
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Wow good to hear! Too bad nothing was said about repaying the people he had ripped off.
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I think he got off too easy... there should Definately be some " Repayment " terms in his sentence.......
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How many tens of thousands did he scam and he only got a one year sentance? Yikes.
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